You do understand that a lot of open-source software, including LyX, is
developed by *volunteers*, do you?


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Ken Springer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10/22/13 10:19 PM, Richard Talley wrote:
>
>> I originally picked up on LyX because I needed to produce some technical
>> manuals quickly that looked good to management and that didn't make me
>> deal with the WYSIWYG nightmares of Word and its ilk.
>>
>> LyX really came through for me.
>>
>> Now I'm helping a friend apply to graduate school. I used the
>> KOMA-script v. 2 letter class to typeset his letter of intent. Looks good!
>>
>> Now on to the résumé. Let's see what's available. ModernCV looks good,
>> under development for seven years.
>>
>> Except it won't accept last names much longer than the author's name
>> without hyphenation. Searching produces lot's of hacks to deal with this.
>>
>> Run the example that comes with LyX. Note in example says, 'The moderncv
>> class offers lots of customization possibilities; some are explained in
>> the preamble of this document; for more information look at the
>> documentation of the LaTeX-package moderncv.'
>>
>> Yeah, right. The README for moderncv is very short and includes this:
>> 'Until a decent manual is written, you can always look in the "examples"
>> directory for some examples. Documents can be compiled into dvi, ps or
>> pdf.'
>>
>> The example LyX file points to documentation that doesn't actually
>> exist. There is no 'more information'. Nothing is explained. Seven years
>> of development and there's nothing that Aunt Tillie can use.
>>
>> I know what I'm going to hear, 'Do it yourself', 'That's how open source
>> works'. I agree. Perhaps I'll find the time to work on the
>> documentation. In the meantime, I need to produce a document NOW, not
>> work on the documentation for the tool to produce the document.
>>
>> Lesson: Please don't point to ghost documentation. If you have the time
>> to produce something that you expect people to use, you need to make the
>> time to explain how to use it.
>>
>> (Disclaimer: this doesn't apply to LyX itself, which is richly
>> documented. Just to accessories to LyX and to open source generally.)
>>
>> -- Rich
>>
>
> To all, what I'm about to write doesn't specifically to LyX, but as in
> Rich's disclaimer, it applies to the open source community in general.
>
> I totally understand Rich's frustrations, although he clearly states his
> comments about the ModernCV site do not apply to LyX.
>
>
> When I bought this Mac, it was more than I should have spent.  I got into
> the open source programs, and encouraged others to do so.
>
> I no longer encourage others to use it.  Myself, I'm slowly moving back to
> commercial software.  A fair question is, why?
>
> There's no universal answer to the question.  I'll just do some quick
> comments, and leave it at that.
>
> 1.  Web pages make claims as to the abilities to do a job.  But the
> software is buggy, or some features just don't work.
>
> 2.  Some pages ask you to become involved, and file bugs.  You do, and I
> did.  But, after a year and a half, the bugs are not even assigned to
> anyone, much less fixed.  One bug was assigned for awhile, but the
> assignment has been removed.  Both are classed as minor.  Well...  They
> aren't minor to me!!  If the developers don't/won't fix it, then:
>
>         a.  Why would I use the program?
>         b.  Why would I recommend the program?
>
> The program I filed the bugs with is one that wishes to take on a
> commercial program in the marketplace.  And they add new features, some of
> which are inevitable buggy.  But the attitude exhibited by not fixing
> existing bugs is very unprofessional.  If you are a business, with
> competition, you want tools that work, not tools you spend a lot of time
> finding work arounds.
>
> 3.  When the new version comes out, and the developers have broken
> something, they say it's a "regression".  Oh, BS!!  That's just political
> spin for not saying they screwed up and didn't catch it.  I would
> appreciate the pure honesty of admitting a mistake than political spin.
>
> 4.  My impression is, for most open source software I've tried over a
> period of time, the quality assurance/testing program to look for and find
> bugs is seriously flawed.  Some bugs are blatant, and I ask myself, "How
> did they miss that?"
>
>
>
> So, the open source community, as a whole, has lost a supporter.  And they
> have a long, long way to go if they want me to recommend them.
>
> That being said, I've started a small writing project, for fun for now.
>  Part of the writing will be done in a commercial program.  I will give LyX
> a try, 2.06 is installed, but haven't had time to start using it.
>
>
> --
> Ken
>
> Mac OS X 10.8.5
> Firefox 24.0
> Thunderbird 17.0.8
> LibreOffice 4.1.1.2
>
>


-- 
Ernesto Posse

Modelling and Analysis in Software Engineering
School of Computing
Queen's University - Kingston, Ontario, Canada

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