Thank you brother Mammadou Sakho,
  I don not see that we desagree, at least that much. I hope that brother 
Ibrahima's question is, even partially, answered. 
  Good lack for you, Ibrahima and all our forums' readers.
   
  Sselam and glad to know you,
  Cheikh Ahmed

"M. Saaxo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
          Thanks for responding as this provides me with the opportunity to 
know or perhaps discover what you thought about my own "analysis". 
Your interpretation of my sentence is not quite acurate in that I 
never implied that Mauritanians are more interested in Material 
things. I think that they are as interested as anyone on this planet 
in their material life.
Both of us may have been out of the country for far too long but 
there are some fundamentals that look like interest in material 
things. 
In every single West to Central african capital, the "boutiquiers" 
are Mauritanians. The Soninkés, my ethnic group, have been migrating 
to France, Central, Southern and even Eastern Africa to accumulate 
wealth. Wealth accumulation, which sounds like an interest in 
material things, appears to me as something that has always been a 
huge part of mauritanian culture. I do not oppose or see any 
conflict or contradiction between being interested in material 
things and having strong moral beliefs. The prophets Mohamed's wife 
was a business woman which did not prevent her from being morally 
outstanding. 
The last time I was in Nouakchott, February and March 2004, I was 
bothered by the fact that life revolved around the constant search 
for material things. People did not take time to reflect about 
anything other than materialistic things. Everybody was talking 
about issues that revolved around materialism ( cars, houses, 
clothes, etc...).
Nouakchott, home to close or more than half of the population living 
inside the country, provides, I think, a good picture of Mauritania. 
Perhaps both of us should go back to Mauritania and revisit our 
beliefs. 
By the way if you had continued your quote, you would have noticed 
that my next sentence stated that "Both my assertion, brother 
Cheikh, and your analysis remain subjective ... Mine is a dream and 
a cry for hope that mauritanians would, when asked, care about 
mauritanians first." I believe that this last sentece captured the 
essence of my view which is I think what brother Ngaide eluded to. I 
hope that mauritanians would care more about their day to day to 
life (both moral and material)than they would about some other 
country. "Love thy Neighbpour". How could we pretend to be muslims 
if we are not concerned FIRST about our neighbours?

Wishing you a great week end

Mamadou Sakho
Canada

--- Dans [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cheikh Ahmed Ould Sidi 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
> Sselamou 3aleikoum brother Mammadou Sakho,
> 
> First, how are you and our fellow citizens in Canada?
> I am happy to have read your response. I like your way of 
reasoning. You are definitely right when you said that my assertion 
was just an assumption in that there is no rigorous or, per say, 
reliable polling in Mauritania. Nonetheless, it was a generalization 
just like yours when talked about the average Mauritanian and so 
forth. One thing invited me to think that you are analyzing a 
Mauritanian phenomenon or trend through a Western set of mind. 
Perhaps, you have long lived in the West or outside the country. I 
drew this conclusion from your statement "The majority, however, 
will, when asked, affirm that 
> the Mauritanian future is much more relevant to their day to day 
> lives than the relations with Israel". When were Mauritanians ever 
concerned about their material life more than their moral life? I 
would say that that never happened. It is normal since such base is 
fundamental when differentiating between the West (Materialism) and 
the East (spiritualism).
> Best wishes,
> Cheikh Ahmed
> 
> "M. Saaxo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> Brother Cheikh Ahmed,
> If I understand you correctly, I should be more sceptical about 
> Mauritania's future. I sincerely hope that you are wrong in 
assuming 
> that the majority of Mauritanian voters would rather see 
Mauritania 
> end its political relations with Israel than put an end to the 
> suffering of oits own people. In the absence of a credible public 
> opinion survey to validate your point of view, I prefer to believe 
> that this is only an ASSUMPTION and hopefully a false one.
> When one puts in perspective the relative importance of 
Mauritania's 
> opinion or stance regarding international issues, it is obvious 
that 
> on a scale of 1 to 10, our opinion counts for much less than 1.
> The balance of power will not shift because we end or maintain our 
> relations with Israel nor will the cause of Palestine become more 
or 
> less important. So the fundemental question of brother Ngaido 
> remains. Why are our politicians inclined to care more about the 
> relations with Israel? I wish I knew the answer. My belief is that 
> the average Mauritanian, the majority of Mauritanians, from 
> Nouakchott to Nema and from Nouadhibou to Diaguily do care about 
> Palestinians. The majority, however, will, when asked, affirm that 
> the Mauritanian future is much more relevant to their day to day 
> lives than the relations with Israel.
> Both my assertion, brother Cheikh, and your analysis remain 
> subjective. Mine, however, depicts a much better image of the 
> mauritanian. Mine is a dream and a cry for hope that mauritanians 
> would, when asked, care about mauritanians first.
> Mamadou Sakho
> Canada 
> 


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