Swamped with work at the moment, but retirement's just around the corner so 
hope to have some time to get back to this soon; I'll be in touch if/when.

Thanks!

m
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gmail 
  To: Model 100 Discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] TDock


  Hey Mike,


  I don't know that I have "magic pointers" so much, but I do have working 
assembly code that redirects it to the printer port.


  Ken

  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 20, 2015, at 10:44 AM, MikeS <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hi Ken,

    Regarding the display speed, I guess we'd have to try it but most of the 
old-time terminals generally ran pretty well at 9600bd or less (a Linux tty 
would be equivalent); the M100's local display routines aren't the speediest 
anyway (especially scrolling). 

    FWIW 8x40 works quite well displayed with a terminal program at 19200 
(either VT100 or Heath emulations were the closest IIRC), and scrolling 
would/should presumably be local in the remote 'display controller' and not 
involve the BT link.

    The "(internal)" BT was meant as a fairly trivial optional mod for 
tinkerers to make for a neater package, but the P&P BlueM or equivalent would 
do just fine.

    Yes, to display the M100 on an external display I just redirect the 
appropriate RST 7 hook to the com port with a simple poke, but couldn't find 
any built-in way to correctly handle 80x25 (especially the 25) mode and its 
various related cursor and screen control codes; I was hoping you had some 
magic pointers to fully implement SCREEN 1 (?) mode but redirectable to COM: 
instead of sending it out over the bus. Might have to revisit this some day.

    Of course the only real downside to using the serial port for the BT link 
to 'everything' is that it ties up the port so you couldn't use the M100 as an 
80 column terminal, for example, but possibly you could make the data/display 
connections within the remote device; guess at this point we're reinventing 
John's tablet/smartphone solution...

    Maybe a $40.00 tablet with some software is the answer after all... ;-)

    m
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ken Pettit 
      To: Model 100 Discussion 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 12:49 PM
      Subject: Re: [M100] TDock


      Hey Mike,


      I suppose you could use serial port + Bluetooth to drive an 80x25 
character display.  But I wonder how slow it would be to do scrolling, etc.  I 
was already worried about how slow a parallel port implementation would be 
relative to a true system bus connection.  And I think the tricky part about 
what you said is the word "internal" as it relates to Bluetooth.  Most people 
don't want to take their machines apart and take a soldering iron to them, 
myself included and I even have the skills to do it (or at least I tell myself 
I do ;)


      As far as the how, the SysROM has multiple RST 7 hooks for sending 
characters to the LCD.  And it uses RAM variables to record the current screen 
dimensions (which are initialized to 40x8).  Redirecting to anything other than 
the internal LCD (i.e. DVI system bus, parallel port, serial port, etc.) 
requires installing a relatively small .CO program and RST7 hooks to intercept 
the data going to the LCD.  And BASIC has a WIDTH command for setting the width 
to either 40 or 80.  But the WIDTH command will fail unless you have actually 
installed a RST7 hook to handle it.


      Ken



      On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:09 AM, MikeS <[email protected]> wrote:


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gmail 
        To: Model 100 Discussion 
        Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:22 AM
        Subject: Re: [M100] TDock

        Ken,

        Tell me more!

        Pretty well everything that's being discussed is already available 
today; connect to an old laptop via Bluetooth and you've got your display 
interface, USB/SD/HD storage, WiFi etc. If that $9.00 SBC becomes a reality it 
should be able to do the same thing, sort of a wireless super-NADSbox..

        That's the way I'd go, a separately powered portable standalone device 
linked to the ModelT via (internal) Bluetooth.

        When I put the M100's display up on the big screen TV it was usually 
for playing M100 format text games and puzzles while reclining on the couch so 
80 column mode wasn't really an issue for me, but I did investigate the 80 
column screen mode a bit way back when with no success.

        I then assumed it was part of the DVI DOS but I gather it's actually 
included in the basic BASIC; any hints about how to get at it, preferably 
redirecting out the serial port?

        And of course then there's the issue of drawing graphics on an 80x25 
equivalent display... ;-)

        m

        ----------------





        Hi Bob,


        Actually no ROM changes are needed.  The existing ROM already supports 
80x25 text mode displays (though not for the MENU program).


        Ken  

        Sent from my iPhone

        On May 20, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Bob Pigford <[email protected]> wrote:


        I agree with Van and others:  TDOCK needs to be a Dock (not portable) 
and may be powered with a wall wart.  For me, an 80 X 25 display would be the 
ultimate goal, not just duplicating the ModelT screen on a larger display.  For 
instance, I think one might already be able to run VirtualT on a Raspberry Pi 
and have a virtual ModelT on a larger screen, but what is the point in that.  

        I want to have the great ModelT keyboard, serial & parallel ports, etc, 
on my desk while looking at a full screen of characters.  The hardest part of 
that might be the changes to the ROM.  I will point out that Steve鈥檚 REX can be 
operated in ROM replacement mode such that a custom modified 鈥渟oft鈥� ROM 
(adjusted for 80 X 25 display) can be used without actually creating or 
requiring a new physical ROM.

        SD card storage in TDOCK would also be terrific freeing the serial port 
for BlueM.

        I think that HDMI may be the best video solution for TDOCK, and there 
are many small HDMI screen choices available.  For example, see 
http://www.adafruit.com/category/63  
        If you only have a VGA screen, then an HDMI to VGA adapter could be 
used.  I am doing this now with a RPi and a VGA screen.

        I think that Wifi and internet connectivity delivered directly from 
TDOCK might be way down the road, but Ken鈥檚 initial design could allow design 
鈥渟pace鈥� for that later enhancement.

        As to Ken鈥檚 question about I/O capability (like A/D and digital pins), 
that would be nice but not necessary.  If you want to touch the real world of 
sensors, motors, and the like, a serial connection to an Arduino will suffice 
(cheap hardware and easier programming on the ModelT end).  Of course, if a 
Raspberry Pi were to be used as the engine under the TDOCK hood, I/O pins and 
HDMI are already there, as well as USB ports for add-ons like Wifi.


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