Hi James,

> At present I'm using a null modem cable, linked to a Linux box running 
> minicom.

- Can you run at the maximum 19,200bd? 
- If not, what is the fastest that works for you?
- Is your Linux box using a 'real' RS232 com port or a USB<>RS232 adapter?

If yours is working properly maybe you can help Mark Wickens; he's also using 
minicom but is only getting reliable transfers at 1200bd or below (he's also on 
your side of the pond).

> Hyper terminal was a nightmare!

Any idea what made it a nightmare? I've used it a fair bit with no issues, 
although TS-DOS with one of the TPDD emulators is more convenient since you run 
it only from the M100 end (once it's installed) and it handles all file types.

There's an article on Bitchin100 about using Hyperterminal; I'd be interested 
to know if it can be improved:
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Text_File_Transfer_using_Hyperterminal

Note that if you're using TELCOM to transfer files (regardless what's at the 
other end) you will only be able to transfer text files or BASIC programs in 
text format (.DO extension). Machine-language .CO files or tokenized .BA BASIC 
files contain control characters that cause havoc with the transfer.

There are several dedicated transfer clients for the Model T that talk to a 
real or emulated TPDD drive; the most popular are menu-driven TS-DOS 
(preferably in ROM but also available to run in RAM) and CLI Teeny.

Teeny is essentially a stripped-down version of TS-DOS that lets you Load, Save 
and Kill files to/from/on a TPDD or a TPDD emulator; if you have an MS-DOS or 
compatible Windows system then Teeny can install itself from the server.

At the other end the best and most flexible server is John H.'s LaddieAlpha 
(although some of the documentation still refers to its predecessor, 
Laddiecon); if you have a DOS or pre-XP Windows box then there is also Desklink.

BTW, one way around running software like Desklink and the Teeny installer that 
requires 'real' MS-DOS to run on a Linux or late Windows box is to make an 
MS-DOS bootable USB drive; unfortunately last time I checked USB com port 
support in DOS is not easy, cheap or reliable so you'd need a 'real' com port.

These days file transfer between a ModelT and a PC running DOS, Windows, Linux 
or even OS/X is pretty straightforward, with various options to choose from; 
unfortunately many folks still have trouble getting it to work well. Have you 
read the relevant articles on Bitchin100? 

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_T_File_Transfer

Good luck; sorry to hear about your frustration with REX.

m

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Zeun 
  To: Model 100 Discussion 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [M100] Update on my M100 and REX


  I don't think you ever ran any utilities to rebuild your REX did you?

  Nope, you might have to talk me through that, but i'm more then willing to 
give it a shot!




  Never used TS-DOS, TPDD? Tandy Portable Disk Drive? I actually have one and i 
have a cable for it, I just dont know if it works as I dont have any software 
for it and have never used one before. A friend just donated it to me.


  At present I'm using a null modem cable, linked to a Linux box running 
minicom. It's been the only fool proof way of getting data off and on the 
machine so far. Hyper terminal was a nightmare! I keep seeing people mention 
Teeny and I've been meaning to look in to it. See my original plan was to get 
the REX, get lots of space for programs and then download them and start 
learning out to use them. But I've sort of got hung up on the REX part haha



  Cheers

  James



  On 26 May 2015 at 13:15, Stephen Adolph <[email protected]> wrote:

    I could send you that software if you wanted to try it.

    You would need a working TPDD device, like laddiealpha running on a PC, 
plus a serial cable.  I'm guessing you have the serial cable sorted out but 
have you ever run TS-DOS or Teeny on the M100, and connected to a "remote TPDD" 
on your PC?

    Steve



    On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Stephen Adolph <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      James, just checked the hundred or so email here.

      I don't think you ever ran any utilities to rebuild your REX did you?

      In some cases I send out software that retests and rebuilds REX, but if 
you never did that then it should be still "as shipped".

      steve



      On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, James Zeun <[email protected]> wrote:

        I just looked back, here is the link. This guys board looks just like 
mine, except I have more ram fitted

        http://www.mvcsys.de/doc/remem_install.html



        On 26 May 2015 at 12:52, James Zeun <[email protected]> wrote:

          Hi Steve


          Under other circumstances, say if we lived in the same country, I 
would post you the machine and the REX to you, no questions asked. But given 
the distance and the age of the M100, I dont think it would be good for the 
computer or my nerves. As I would be having kittens, wondering if it was going 
to get lost in the post. Plus there is the matter of shipping, I can see 
posting the M100 would be expensive. 


          This is a totally new platform to me, while I know what a binary is, 
I've not really encountered HEX files before. Aside from HEX archives on the 
Macintosh Plus. My understanding of ROMs and checksums is not shall we say that 
good, in fact it's down right rubbish! The closest I've come to playing with 
ROMS is on a BBC Micro computer and even then i was only fitting them. So I 
think it is fair to say your knowledge on this subject surpassed mine in leaps 
and bounds. Which is probably why your building the REX and I'm not :-P


          I am very happy to post you the REX, as I would like to know what the 
heck is going on myself. Is my machine faulty? is the REX faulty? Are all 
European M100's built like mine? Could the REX not working in my machine, be an 
indication of an inherit incompatibility between US and EU models? Am I going 
to struggle with other expansion modules? 
          One way or the other its all a process of learning more about these 
little machines.  I've done a little research on EU M100's and found another 
guy here in the UK who has a machine like mine. I think I sent you a link / 
picture of it a while back. So we at least know mine isn't a one off. The guy 
in question was trying to fit something to his machine but discovered his mobo 
didn't match up with the US machines. 


          The REX is installed like it is shown in the wiki page, with the two 
lines on the PCB lining up with the gaps in the plastic surround. I wont deny 
getting stung with the extra charges really wasn't great, since then it's sort 
of felt like everything that could go wrong HAS. It's been a struggle to keep 
up my enthusiasm but I do like using this little computer, it's leagues better 
then the Amstrad NC100 and other machines of that ilk.


          If you want to email me your address, I will sort out sending you the 
REX, is there any point me posting you the new ROM as well?


          Cheers

          James  





          On 26 May 2015 at 12:00, Stephen Adolph <[email protected]> wrote:

            James,

            Sorry, I thought you would understand that the 32k file is a binary 
file, and the file you extracted from your now modified laptop would be hex 
ascii.

            And yes, the goal is for you to be able to verify that you got what 
you asked for, and that involves confirming that your installed ROM matches the 
binary that I sent.  Does that clarify?

            There are lots of things online to help you out.  

            I used winhex to convert your file from hex ascii to binary, then 
compute the hash 16.  Your extracted ROM has a checksum of A8AF - as expected.



            So, as I said in the off list thread, I can't do anything further.  
You have hardware that I have never seen, which could be defective for all I 
know.  It also could be a broken REX.


            If you want you can send REX to me on your dime and I can test it 
out.  If it is "no fault found" then I suppose you would want a refund which I 
am fine with but  you will need to contact Ken and understand what he is 
willing to do. 

            I am assuming that REX is correctly installed.  Did you check that? 
 Please go to to the wiki to understand how to install REX.


            If you'd rather avoid shipping costs I'm happy to refund my portion 
of this now.


            In the past I have had people send me their machines to debug, 
which generally is a learning opportunity.  But since you are in the UK and 
already unhappy about the money you have spent, I'm not interested in pursuing 
this option as there are no guarantees that anything can be made to work for 
you.


            If I had more of these different UK machine data points, I would be 
comfortable with saying that REX does NOT WORK in a UK machine.  But, with a 
data point of ONE unit, I don't think it is correct to make that statement.





            ..Steve








            On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:32 AM, James Zeun <[email protected]> 
wrote:

              Hey guys!


              So since posting in April that I was having trouble getting REX 
to work, there's been a little progress, but not a lot. Stephen kindly supplied 
me with a ROM file that was compatible with the REX and using a company Kurt 
had told me about. I had a new System ROM burnt for my machine.


              The ROM arrived last week and after installing it, the REX still 
doesn't respond to the CALL63012 command. When I input that command, the 
machine locks up and only by pressing the RESET can I get it back. This also 
has the side effect of wiping clean the computers memory, which I thought was 
interesting, because pressing the RESET shouldn't do that. Only a hard reset 
zaps your ram (unless I'm mistaken?).


              Stephen asked me if i could do a system dump and compare results 
with (I believe) the original file he sent me. However I'm not entirely clear 
on the method he wants me to use, e.g Am I comparing the file sizes of each 
file or something more involved like comparing the contents? The latter of 
which I wouldn't have a clue about. The system dump I made over the weekend 
curiously comes to 64kb, while the image file Stephen sent me weights in at 
32kb. I'm a little confused why the dumped file is twice the size, surely it 
should be the same size as the file Stephen sent me.

              File size aside, everything else about the ROM seems to work, 
except I'm still having issue with the REX. So either the fault is with the 
module or my M100, or there is something else about the EU M100 that makes it 
incompatible with REX. As its been established the motherboard and the system 
rom of my machine differ from US machines. The only part of that which bothers 
me, is compatibility. It just seems like bad business sense to make US and EU 
machines so radically different. that they can't share addon modules.


              Well thats the slog so far, big thanks to those people who have 
helped me on this. It sucks big time that it didn't worked out the box, but at 
least we know that EU M100's are funny buggers...well mine is at least! lol









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