Mike, 

    M102, and it was running its own monitoring program, that's how it (I) knew 
run time. When it pooped out, the last time was recorded. It was, in fact , 
monitoring its own battery voltage via an ADIOS. One might argue that the 
RS-232 ate some power, but it was only OPENed when making a measurement at 5 
minute intervals, then closed.

    If you recall, I also (later) embedded an A/D in a M102, which can measure 
both external voltages as well as monitor battery voltage. I could run the same 
test now, without having to hook anything up at all. Cheesy video of that: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMV2HKwrCCc

John W.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Stein 
  To: Model 100 Discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [M100] M100 power requirements


  Was this an M100 or a 102, and what if anything was it running?

  Looks like an app for the ADIOS ;-)

  m
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Whitton 
    To: Model 100 Discussion 
    Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [M100] M100 power requirements


    *?*

        Hmm. I do not recall, but I'm betting that the supply was tied to the 
battery terminals, otherwise I would have had to make up a pigtail to use the 
jack. I wouldn't bet my life on that...

        As an aside, I attach here a plot of battery voltage vs. time. This was 
recorded using fully charged 2400mA NiMH batteries. Cutoff occured at 1407 
minutes. Note the abrupt knee at the end of the useful battery charge/energy. 
That is characteristic of NiMH batteries. Alkalines have a more gradual slope

    John W.


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Josh Malone 
      To: Model 100 Discussion 
      Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:14 PM
      Subject: Re: [M100] M100 power requirements


      Awesome, thank you. Any idea if this was measured with supply connected 
to the dc jack or the battery terminals?

      On Dec 8, 2015 5:53 PM, "John Whitton" <[email protected]> wrote:

        FWIW, find attached a .pdf graph of M102 power consumption. This was 
compiled 6 years ago (hard to believe).

        John W.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Josh Malone 
          To: Model 100 Discussion 
          Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:02 PM
          Subject: Re: [M100] USB "juice pack"


          I just tested the power requirements of my 102. With the battery 
connectors connected to a bench supply at 5 volts, it draws a very consistent 
65mA. I was expecting the current to vary slightly with CPU or screen activity 
but it does not. I'm so used to CPU idle states which, of course, the 8085 does 
not use :)


          I have one of these kicking around at home 
(https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10968) so I'm thinking to construct a 
LiPo-based AA battery replacement so I can recharge my 102 via USB. There's 
also https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11231 but that's capable of WAY more 
current than necessary and considerably more expensive.


          -Josh



          On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Mike Stein <[email protected]> 
wrote:



            Yeah, I was wondering about that, especially with WiFi; definitely 
sounds a little high. Too bad.

            Maybe Jeff's solution isn't such a bad idea after all ;-)

            Anyway, the M100 works fine on a "juice pack".

            m

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