*All* of them? Are you sure? Even the left-most one?

I always believed that there were only two models (in NA):

26-3801, an 8K base memory version with three expansion sockets, and
26-3802, a 24K base memory version with only one expansion socket.

What's your model (and serial) number?

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Josh Malone 
  To: Model 100 Discussion 
  Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] 32k M102 suddenly showing 24k


  No, they're all soldered. I was hoping a reseat would be warranted, but alas.



  On Jul 4, 2016 3:39 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:

    If you have socketed ram chips you may need to reseat then. 


    -- John. 

    On Monday, July 4, 2016, Josh Malone <[email protected]> wrote:

      Thanks. For some reason, finding the 100 cold-start procedure via Google 
wasn't working for me.


      However, the free memory hasn't changed. It's still stuck at 24k. I guess 
it's time to get out the scope/meter/etc. and see what's going on. Not looking 
forward to this and not exactly sure what to try next.


      BTW - shouldn't your sig take the Model 100 into account? :)


      -Josh



      On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Ron Lauzon <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hold the reset button on the back, then press Control-Break.



        On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Josh Malone <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        > What procedure should I use for a cold start? I figured the memory 
power
        > should do it.
        >
        >
        > On Jul 3, 2016 10:52 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis" <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>
        >> Sounds like it is crashed.  Try cold starting it and see if memory 
is back
        >> to normal. The typical ways this happens is running an ML program 
with a bug
        >> or attempting to load a untokenized basic program with a BA 
extension.
        >>
        >> Logical operators can be used for masking and whatnot. But to shift 
in
        >> BASIC you need multiplication and division by powers of two.
        >>
        >> -- John.
        >>
        >> On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Josh Malone <[email protected]> wrote:
        >>>
        >>> So,
        >>>
        >>> I was sitting down to hack on some basic code
        >>> 
(https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/4qs0f3/july_is_basic_month_the_challenge_turtle_graphics/)
        >>> and typed in a quick basic statement to verify that Tandy 102 basic 
has
        >>> bitwise operators (it seems to). The command was something like 
"print c and
        >>> 2" or something stupid like that. To my surprise, my 102 reset 
itself. All
        >>> my files were gone (backed up, so no real loss) but now the menu is 
showing
        >>> 21446 bytes free. Some gremlin has stolen 8k of my RAM!
        >>>
        >>> I'm so perplexed by this, I just opened up my 102 to visually 
verify is
        >>> has 32k (indeed, all 4 RAM chips installed - although 1 is a 
different chip
        >>> than the other 3). I've let the system sit for >1 hour with memory 
switch
        >>> off and power removed. No change.
        >>>
        >>> What on earth could have happened?
        >>>
        >>> Last clue I have is that I re-loaded FILSIZ.BA and when I run it, I 
get
        >>> OV error on line 9.
        >>>
        >>> Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
        >>>
        >>> -Josh




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