Yes! I've revived many "dead" m100/m102/m200/8201A by simply plugging them in
for 24 hours.
From: Bert Put <[email protected]>
To: Model 100 Discussion <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [M100] Attempting to restore an NEC 8201A
After all that, I hope you've tried the old standard that works on the
m-100... leave it turned off with batteries in the tray or on the power supply
overnight and let the internal ni-cd charge up. If these units have not been
used for a while the internal ni-cd may have discharged to the point where the
unit will not start. Good luck.
Cheers, Bert
-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Malone <[email protected]>
Date: 2/7/2017 07:35 (GMT-06:00)
To: Model 100 Discussion <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [M100] Attempting to restore an NEC 8201A
Wow - what an ordeal. Good luck.
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Steven Hoefel <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello all,
My name is Steven and I've recently acquired three of these machines in
non-working condition.I received one first, and got to work attempting to
diagnose and get it booting. It initially only showed a black screen.
A lot of trial and error was involved, but I actually, at one point, got all
the way through to BASIC and TEX. Unfortunately, BASIC was a scrambled screen
and I really didn't know what to do in TEX.
Since then though, the machine is back to the basic black fill. The speaker
ticks once when the power switch is thrown.
I've recently acquired an oscilloscope and am trying to follow the service
manual, but am quite unsure as to what to expect.
First questions:- I've replaced all of the 603 transistors with BC547s. Was
this a smart move? I had to re-align the legs to get them in, but I actually
had the machine booting at one point.- I've started replacing all the ICs on
the mainboard with 74HC equivalents. This doesn't seem to be helping at all.- I
can't seem to get 7.5v on pin 16. The service manual indicates that there's a
bunch of components that need replacing. I did so, but used a 1N914 for the
signal diode and BC547 for the 603. I also socketed the 4013. Unfortunately,
it's still only producing ~6.8v- One of the machine clicks the relay on the
board, along with the speaker, when it powers up. It also shows a black screen.
Should the relay fire when the machine starts?
Is there any 'start up process' that I should be looking for when the machine
starts booting? i.e. certain voltages in certain locations. Pins in states,
etc... so I can tell what part of the boot I am locked up in?
Could all the ROMs be damaged? Of the 3, I swapped the ROMs between the machine
that I had booting once... but still no avail. Can't get it past the black
screen at all.
Am starting to think there is something fundamental that I'm missing and I'd
love to know if there are any pointers.
The current story is documented here:http://modelrail.otenko.com/
retro/nec-8201a-portable- computer-black-screen
Thanks in advance, Steven.
