Why not use TS-DOS and LaddieAlpha?

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=LaddieCon

Or one of the various other methods:

http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=Model_T_File_Transfer

Could even use Bluetooth and forget about that null-modem cable ;-)

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Bucalo 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial 
to USB


  I was going to bring it up. Before I posted I saw a reference online to using 
PuTTY. I'll try all the terminal connection options to see what works best for 
me. I work at the command line often, but with a fading memory I will work with 
GUI front ends and apps if it's not much more work. Thanks, Alex.





  -----Original Message-----
  From: Alex ... <[email protected]>
  To: Model 100 Discussion <[email protected]>
  Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 5:45 pm
  Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif Serial 
to USB


  The Linux version of PuTTY works nicely with serial ports.


  On Apr 27, 2017 17:31, "Paul Bucalo" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thanks, Jonathon. I'm good on diagrams--I still have the original manual, 
plus what I have scrounged through Club 100 and after-market books. At least I 
know 'your' diagram really works. 







    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jonathan Yuen <[email protected]>
    To: Model 100 Discussion <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 2:23 pm
    Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif 
Serial to USB

    Hello again,

    I found some notes and I hope it is the one I used:

    DB9 DB25
    Rx 2 Tx 2
    Tx 3 Rx 3
    Dtr 4 Dsr 6
    Gnd 5 Gnd 7
    Dsr 6 Dtr 20
    Rts 7 Cts 5
    Cts 8 Rts 4
    1 8 I think I wrote DCD for this pin but I'm pretty sloppy writing.....

    Jonathan

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to USB

    I just did a search on eBay for a Belkin F3x171-10. Only listing that came 
up was selling for $50. Yeah, not going to happen. I'll look around to see if 
anyone sells the cable for a reasonable price, but chances are high I'll end up 
making up a DB25-to-DB9 cable set. I sure wish I hadn't thrown out the one I 
made years ago, back when I was actively working with my M100. Live and 
(probably never) learn.

    I'll give HTERM a try. I had forgotten about utf-8 coding. Thanks for the 
reminder.

    Thanks, John.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: John R. Hogerhuis <[email protected]>
    To: Model 100 Discussion <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm
    Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif 
Serial to USB



    On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works well or 
not at all. Doesn't really matter much. Most likely I will make up a new cable 
using DB25-to-DB9.


    My favorite cable is the full-null belkin serial laplink cable, if you can 
find one. Never had a problem with any of them, ever. f3x171-10, but they are 
hard to find these days though they were very cheap for a while. To use with 
Model T, you need to have a db-25 gender changer.

    But generally, you need a full-null cable. I wouldn't go with 3 wire cables 
since you may want to experiment with hardware flow control (HTERM, my bare 
bones / dumb terminal to Linux) given that you hook to Linux which overruns the 
Model T 64-byte serial buffer when using software flow control.

    Also Linux utilities throw in UTF-8 and lots of formatting codes. HTERM 
maps to/from utf-8 and strips ANSI color escapes, stuff like that.

    One thing to be aware of is some cables bump into the Model100 case and 
keep it from mating properly. You may have to shave some off the housing to 
make it fit, or ideally find one that fits into the space available, after 
adding the thin-hood gender changer.

    USB on the PC side is fine. I recommend only devices with FTDI chipsets, 
however (not Prolific). The FTDI drivers generally allow more configurability 
which ends up being necessary with TS-DOS (TS-DOS loves to time-out... remember 
USB serial devices have a tendency to delay/collect bytes to "efficiently" send 
a larger packet).

    -- John.

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