A proper level-shifter breakout would do the trick, right?

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/sparkfun-electronics/BOB-11189/1568-1193-ND/5673779

On Feb 27, 2018 7:21 PM, "Scotty Brown" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the info gents.
>
> It appears I should have done a little more research on the cable.
>
> Will give this a go and report back (still would love an original cable is
> anyone has one!).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Scotty
>
> On 28/02/2018 08:50, Brian White wrote:
>
> The cable requires at minimum a few diodes, besides the necessary pin to
> pin wiring.
> The real original cable appears to use resistors and transistors, and
> there is a schematic someone came up with a long time ago that uses diodes
> and resistors, and at least one person has claimed since then that they
> made a cable that works fine with only the diodes.
>
> The complicating issue is that the PDD is TTL (0-5v) while the serial port
> is rs232 (-12v-+12v), and the fact that you can usually get away with a lot
> when interfacing with rs232 and techgnically violate the spec and yet it
> still "works", and the fact that part of the scheme in our case is
> particular to the actual wiring of the rs232 plug in the M100 where there
> are pull-down (or pull-up, I forget which) resistors on some of the flow
> control pins in the M100, which ends up causing the signal to be valid high
> or low for rs232 merely by blocking it, without having to actually DO the
> proper electrical conversion you otherwise would have to in the cable. IE,
> the unofficial cable schematic merely one-way-blocks some signals with a
> diode, which technically does NOT produce a valid rs232 signal level (-3v
> to -25v or +3v to +25v), but, because of the internal pull-downs in the
> M100 on those pins, merely blocking the signal in the cable ends up hving
> the result that the pull-down in the M100 pulls the signal down to a valid
> level. So, a cable that works between a PDD and M100/102/200, is not
> guaranteed to work between a PDD and any other pc serial port or usb serial
> adapter, although so far, they do seem to be working everywhere.
>
> Links to the unofficial schematic, and the service manual which shows the
> pinout for the PDD end of the cable:
> http://tandy.wiki/TPDD
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Scotty Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've just got back into my M100 over the last few months - have been
>> blogging about it a little here: https://scottyau.blogspot.com.au/
>>
>> I've pulled a lot of stuff out of the mailing list archives - thank you
>> all so much.
>>
>> I've managed to get my hands on a Portable Disk Drive 2 - however it
>> didn't come with the serial cable.
>>
>> Chances are I can probably find a pin out and make one - but I wondered
>> if anyone on list had an original cable they would be willing to part
>> with (for a fee + postage of course).
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Scotty
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> bkw
>
>
>

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