If you have access to DigiKey then you can always buy parts there (or Mouser).  
 I used a 74HC148 as the decoder chip when I built my M100 RAM module.  There 
are quite a lot of ways to decode the 4 Chip Enables on the RAM socket using a 
single IC.

These are DIP parts.

AS6C6264-55PCN RAM  = 1450-1036-ND  - $2.43
74HC148    Priority Decoder =  296-8233-5-ND - 43c

If you want to try the 74HC86 =  296-8375-5-ND - 40c

Cost ~$3, however S&H would be extra.


From: M100 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of Diggy Dude 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, May 7, 2018 at 9:26 AM
To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [M100] 8K RAM module

Well, it looks like the only 7486s I have on hand are LS. What with buying bulk 
parts I'll probably never use and waiting for the slow boat from China, it'll 
probably be more cost-effective just to buy the module on Arcade Shopper. 
Thanks for your help, guys!

-- Jim

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Francesco Messineo 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Diggy Dude 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> To make sure I understand:
>
> Clean all pads and leads with flux.Will a flux pen suffice, or should liquid
> flux be used?

no, flux residue after soldering has to be removed. I use water-based
flux, so I clean the boards with water and bake them to remove the
water

>
> What specific 74HC and SRAM devices do you use?

I use AS6C6264SCN memories, though they aren't guaranteed to have
standby current  lower than 4 uA, but I measure every module to be
sure it meets this requirement. It's the only part that can be found
new at this time. I have used  batoches of several other SRAMs when
I've found a good deal on ebay for example.
I do all glue logic with a single 74HC86.

>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 2:45 AM, Francesco Messineo
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Diggy Dude 
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks, Fugu!
>> >
>> > So the modern solution is a single SRAM and capacitor on a SOIC-to-DIP
>> > breakout? What's the RAM chip they're using?
>>
>> and a logic chip (there're a few different approaches here) to combine
>> the separate chip selects to a couple of addresses and a single select
>> signal. My own version of the circuit uses the fewest ports possible
>> (at least if nobody comes up with a different approach I couldn't
>> think of).
>> The RAM chip must be a CMOS static ram, 8kx8 and with low power
>> standby (not all have this feature). The original 8k modules were
>> specified for 4 uA max standby current, that allows the standby
>> battery to keep the RAM content for over a month. Usually the suitable
>> chips have L or LL in the part number, but you better check the
>> datasheet for the fine details. Most of the suitable RAM chips have a
>> measured standby current of 0.1 uA (often less) at 3.3V if the chip
>> select are driven with the correct voltages. At these current levels,
>> cleaning the soldering flux is a must. I've measured up to 15 uA of
>> standby current on badly cleaned modules. YMMV.
>> Glue logic *must* be 74HC family, it has a suitable current draw at
>> 3.3V standby and suitable speed. In one case I've used 74AHC and it
>> worked well too.
>>
>> >
>> > -- Jim
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:29 PM, Fugu ME100 
>> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You could try
>> >>
>> >> https://www.arcadeshopper.com/wp/?page_id=11#!/8k-RAM-module-for-Model-100/p/104430801/category=28313042<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.arcadeshopper.com%2Fwp%2F%3Fpage_id%3D11%23!%2F8k-RAM-module-for-Model-100%2Fp%2F104430801%2Fcategory%3D28313042&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb8bb797123af403b53b708d5b43745b3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636613071840276763&sdata=F4%2FPkPnXMzef8DB1N50baPzETrsjrbFiag0daGnMhzI%3D&reserved=0>
>> >>
>> >> They have the M100 modules if you want to buy.
>> >>
>> >> If you want to build your own there are PCBs on OSH Park for surface
>> >> mount
>> >> and DIP versions.
>> >>
>> >> No need for any pillaging :)
>> >>
>> >> From: M100 
>> >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >>  on behalf of Diggy Dude
>> >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >> Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 8:13 PM
>> >> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >> Subject: [M100] 8K RAM module
>> >>
>> >> Anyone know where I can get an additional 8K for my 24K M100 without
>> >> pillaging another M100? Let's face it: if I got another M100, I'd be
>> >> inclined to leave it intact.
>> >
>> >
>
>

Reply via email to