Unfortunately it only creates images with a TPDD2. If I ever get my hands on a TPDD I'll modify it. Kurt
On Tue, May 29, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Jim Anderson wrote: > Kurt’s TPDD Client is a Windows program which can read/write disks > from images files using a TPDD2 connected to a serial port on the > Windows PC. Looking at his description of it, I now notice that he > only mentions the TPDD2 (and he has an image file of the TPDD2 Utility > Disk available for download), so I have no idea whether it works for > the original TPDD or not. If it does, there’s a great way for sharing > the TPDD Utility Disk without mailing blanks around (somebody can make > an image of theirs available). Maybe Kurt can weigh in on the > compatibility of TPDD Client with the original TPDD. I’ve only > personally used it with my TPDD2.> > http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum/TPDD%20Client> > > > > > > > > jim > > *From:* M100 [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of > *Kevin Becker *Sent:* Tuesday, May 29, 2018 5:55 PM *To:* > [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [M100] TPDD Utility Disk> > Yeah, I’m not suggesting writing a disk from a PC. I was was just > hoping I could either make a disk from scratch on a M102 with TS-DOS > or beg a copy from a generous list member.> > On May 29, 2018, at 7:28 PM, Stephen Adolph > <[email protected]> wrote:>> Only an fm drive can make a tppd disc. Mfm > can't >> Do It. >> >> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_Frequency_Modulation >> >> >> Translation...a standard 3.5 drive can't work. But the idea of >> a program to make a boot disc is possible provided you have a >> good Tpdd.>> >> >> >> On Tuesday, May 29, 2018, Kevin Becker <[email protected]> wrote:>>> >> Unless the pictures on eBay are wrong, mine is definitely a TPDD.>>> >>> >>> >>> On May 29, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Brian White <[email protected]> wrote:>>>> If >>> what you have is a TPDD-2 and not a TPDD, I can supply a copy >>>> for TPDD-2. Send me an address off-list and I'll mail it tomorrow.>>>> >>>> Conversely I would like a copy for TPDD myself if anyone is willing >>>> to either make me one, or trust me with mailing me theirs and I'll >>>> mail it back after making a copy myself.>>>> >>>> From what I've been able to tell, although people have tried and >>>> failed for 30 years, it actually *should* be physically possible to >>>> generate a new disk purely from a download, as long as you have a >>>> real drive and a working special cable. After all, the included >>>> floppy dos + backup.ba does it, and the drive is controlled >>>> entirely by mere serial communication which anything can do.>>>> A little >>>> progress has been made recently wrt recording the entire >>>> serial conversation during a backup, but it still has not yet gone >>>> all the way to being able to generate a disk from scratch from a >>>> download.>>>> I think the tools are there to at least work on it and >>>> eventually >>>> get there. So if you want an interesting project that hasn't >>>> already been solve at least 7 different times over the decades, yet >>>> looks within reach, there it is. :)>>>> >>>> You absolutely need a working TPDD or TPDD-2 drive to make these >>>> though, even if you use a modern pc to control it. It's not just a >>>> matter of an odd number of tracks or sectors or other formatting. >>>> The raw magnetic format is FM instead of MFM which all pc drives & >>>> drive controllers use. No amount of special software can overcome >>>> that!>>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:58 PM, Kevin Becker >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>> A little deeper googling is leading me >>>> to believe there is a >>>>> special floppy_sys file on the utility disk that nobody has >>>>> figured out how to recreate. I'll try it anyway when it arrives >>>>> but If that ends up being the case, then I wonder if there is >>>>> anyone on the list who would be willing to make my a utility disk. >>>>> I'd be happy to send a blank disk and a self-addressed stamped >>>>> envelope.>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Tom Dison <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:>>>>>> Ah that's a good question, is like to know also. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:29 PM Kevin Becker >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>> I don’t mean with a PC. I should >>>>>> already be able to use the >>>>>>> drive via TS-DOS so I’m assuming I can just copy floppy.co to my >>>>>>> M102 using desklink and then save it to the TPDD. I’m just >>>>>>> wondering if that is good enough or if there is some special >>>>>>> boot sector magic necessary.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 29, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Tom Dison <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> I don't believe you can create one with a PC floppy >>>>>>> controller. >>>>>>>> I'd buy a copy off of someone is I could. For now, I'm planning >>>>>>>> on using the python library on Linux box connected to the drive >>>>>>>> to create the disk. I'd much rather just have the floppy.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:31 PM Kevin Becker >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:>>>>>>>>> I've been watching eBay on and >>>>>>>> off for a TPDD or TPDD2 >>>>>>>>> complete with cable at a reasonable price for what feels like >>>>>>>>> forever. I finally pulled the trigger on one today but >>>>>>>>> doesn't include the utility diskette.>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I already have a REX with TS-DOS and I know how to bootstrap >>>>>>>>> TEENY if necessary, but I'd like to have a utility disk with >>>>>>>>> floppy.co just for the fun of it. I believe I found floppy.co >>>>>>>>> in an archive on the Club100 site. Is there anything special >>>>>>>>> about the utility disk or can I just save floppy.co to any >>>>>>>>> formatted disk and then be able to use it to bootstrap >>>>>>>>> floppy.co later?>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Faith without Works is Dead... >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Faith without Works is Dead... >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> bkw
