" if I want to save a back-up of a program before I make changes can I only
do it as a .DO"

Natively, yes.

You can rename the program, but there is no way to copy it without loading
some special program to do it, or save/load from external.

So to duplicate a file with a stock machine you'd need to save as a DO,
LOAD" it, then save it as a new file name.

Which means you have to have enough space for the original, the tokenized
program + ASCII format. Then you can delete the ASCII file and have just
the two tokenized copies.

If you simply need to take backups of RAM on occasion and you have a serial
cable and a PC you can consider my utility TBACK.EXE . It can
backup/restored the full RAM in about 9 seconds

-- John.

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