I went ahead and bought one :)

On 2020-07-15 6:15 p.m., Francois Gurin wrote:
... And thank you for it.  I bought one for the TPPD2 recently and can say the attention to detail is clear.  As a favor I would expect a generic floppy with a hand wriiten label.  The disk I got from arcadeshopper is on display on a shelf.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 10:32 PM Brian K. White <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 7/14/20 8:36 PM, Ben Strewens wrote:
    > I have one of these drives, but no disk for it. I was able to do
    the PC
    > hack to make it work, but I'd rather have the disk. Is there
    anyone in
    > Canada that could make one for me for a small fee?

    I made up a bunch of TPDD1 and TPDD2 disks from NOS disks,
    designed and
    laserprinted nice labels on good glossy stock, and they are for
    sale on
    arcadeshopper.com <http://arcadeshopper.com>

    (I don't run that shop, I just sent him the stuff to distribute
    that way
    so they are discoverable, and so that he can deal with 100 different
    mailings and I only have to deal with one.)

    I DID pay it forward several times over, the fact that someone
    sent me a
    disk for free, and made several copies for free for people for a
    while
    before making one big batch and dumping them on Greg to deal with via
    his store. (and then a couple times saw that disk appear on ebay
    immediately after spending time and one of my few nos 720K disks
    sending
    it to someone for free incuding mail...)

    I do feel a little self-conscious or defensive saying something is
    for
    sale that should just be a favor, but it's only a favor a few times,
    after that it's a time-consuming chore, and I don't want to have a
    2nd
    job as an ebay seller. So I just slogged through 20 of each in one
    big
    job, and sent them all to arcadeshopper in one shipment, charged him
    enough to cover the disks, labels, bags, shipping, and now it's
    someone
    else's actual compensated job to deal with mailing the individual
    ones
    out any time someone needs one.

    There is no way to hurry the process of making a disk with the
    included
    backup utility, especially if you test-boot each one, and it puts
    wear
    on the drive. Especially the TPDD1 disks are a pain because the TPDD1
    bootstrap procedure is a pain.

    The same goes for the DVI disks for 100, DVI disks for 200, the TPDD
    cables, and the DVI cables.

    Plus I thought, being a store, it would have a better chance of
    turning
    up in google searches when a new person got a TPDD on ebay or
    smething,
    and they go to search for info about it, they would have a better
    chance
    of finding out that the lost special disk or cable is available, vs a
    post or two here where only a few people who happen to be on the
    list at
    that time ever see it. I don't know how true that's turning out to
    be,
    but it's got to be better than nothing.

-- bkw

    > On 2020-07-14 7:32 p.m., Doug Jackson wrote:
    >> Ohhh Ahhhh,
    >>
    >> Stephen, are you hinting that with an actual drive I could
    recreate my
    >> own TPPD 1 disk?   That would be cool.  I am just about to do a
    belt
    >> replacement on one who's belt turned into black goo - When I
    removed
    >> the belt it literally went everywhere - and then the cleanup of
    the
    >> workshop bench was spectacular. Alcohol worked a treat :-)
    >>
    >> While there are beautiful solid state versions of the TPPD now,
    but
    >> the concept of a drive that clicks and whirs is very appealing to
    >> me, Just like the 8" drives in my PDP11.
    >>
    >> Kindest regards,
    >>
    >> Doug Jackson
    >>
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    >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:08 AM Stephen Adolph
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>     I believe that it is just not possible to use PC hardware ...
    >>     drive, controller... to read a TPDD disk.
    >>
    >>     The disk is encoded with FM whereas a normal drive is MFM.  Or
    >>     maybe that is backwards.
    >>
    >>     Not sure but possibly a Catweasel drive can be used.  But
    that is
    >>     specialized.
    >>
    >>     Perhaps though a real TPDD drive connected to the pc is good
    >>     enough?  I think there is software for that .
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>     On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, RETRO Innovations
    >>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    >>
    >>         Is there really no way to read the 3.5" disks in a PC
    (even an
    >>         older one, via DOS, with a discrete FDC IC)? I'd like to
    >>         backup my TPDD disks, but my M100 is set up for the DVI
    right
    >>         now, and I'd prefer to not redo all of that.
    >>
    >>         Jim
    >>
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