Some tips on that....

Are you using Linux on the Pi? If so,  it would be easier to just use a USB
serial port. The Prolific and FTDI ports both work with Raspbian; I've used
both.

Otherwise, maybe look at a DTE wired level converter with CTS/RTS.... like
this one:

https://www.amazon.com/NulSom-Inc-Ultra-Compact-Converter/dp/B00OPU2QJ4/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=ttl+rs-232+level+converter&qid=1600718673&sr=8-4

Although I'm not sure where you'll get CTS and RTS on the Pi. I don't know
that it's mapped to any of the GPIO pins. This might help a little bit:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=241623



Tom Wilson
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:10 PM Jonathan Yuen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a
> raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing.  The pi is TTL, so I have
> an adapter to change it to RS-232.  The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable
> actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into the serial port
> on your PC for synchronizing etc.  The Psion has a perfectly good comm
> program, so I'm using it as terminal (there is even a VT100 program) but I
> need the 'null modem' or crossover connector to connect it to the
> level-shifter.  Since they were both female, I actually did the test with 3
> pieces of maybe 14 or 16 gauge insulated wire, maybe 3 cm long, with their
> ends stripped and pushed into the right holes. But I thought I should have
> something a bit more 'robust' and maybe do the other lines as well.
>
> I think Psion actually made a modem that connected to this cable, but that
> must have been DTE.......
>
> I guess I always thought of the 'modem' in null-modem as 'modem=DCE' since
> I've always connected DTE things together. But I appreciate the feedback
> from the group.
>
> Jonathan
>
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> Ämne: Re: [M100] definition of null modem
>
> "Null" means "none" or "zero." So "null modem" means "no modem."
> This term is an adjective and should be coupled with "cable", "adapter",
> or some other noun to be of any use.
>
> I don't see a need to re-define the term, since "null modem cable" is well
> established, and we all know exactly what the term means.
>
> Strangely, there are times you actually need a null modem cable to connect
> a computer to a modem. Most CP/M computers used dumb terminals, as did any
> mainframe and minicomputer (also called a mini mainframe.) Since those
> computers were designed to have DTE devices plugged directly in to their
> terminal ports, you might need a null modem cable to connect a modem to the
> mainframe... Of course, in that case, we'd just call those "modem cables"
> (or, more commonly, the 8-pin modular to DB25 adapter would be labeled
> "modem".) So in that instance, we literally used a null-modem cable to
> connect to a modem....
>
> Sometimes I love the English language.
>
> Tom Wilson
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> (619)940-6311
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>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Lee Kelley <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> I've always thought "null modem" was a misnomer. It probably should have
> been called a "non modem cable" or simply a cross over cable as mentioned
> above.
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 RETRO Innovations <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote:
> >
> > That said, I could only think that the other wiring should be same as a
> null modem, but I thought that I should air my thoughts to see what other
> people think.
>
> I'm curious about the use case, but you are correct, the wiring would be
> the same.  Maybe, (though no one will do this, as the other terms have
> been in use for too long), it's best to call such a cable a "crossover"
> cable, like is available for Ethernet ports.
>
> Jim
>
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