Oh, sorry I misread what you wrote. But to your point, that could be done. I 
use a SuperCard Pro to image floppies which is just a PIC uC with supporting HW 
and some spiffy firmware/software. It can image TPDD1/2 disks easily using a 
standard 3.5” 1.44MB drive. The software does know how to interpret the data, 
it is just a flux map. The .SCP format is well documented though so one could 
figure out how to recreate the disk file structure from it.

There is a similar device called the Flux Engine that has already done the file 
system decoding and can image/interpret TPDD disks using a standard 3.5” 1.44MB 
drive.

 

Jeff Birt

 

From: M100 <m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com> On Behalf Of Stephen Adolph
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 7:28 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com
Subject: Re: [M100] TPDD service manual

 

not exactly the point I was trying to make.

pretty clearly a TPDD1 cannot use an HD floppy.  

but a small microcontroller that speaks TPDD protocol and has integrated FDC 
function could interface with a modern FDD.

..steve

 

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 8:20 AM Jeffrey Birt <bir...@soigeneris.com 
<mailto:bir...@soigeneris.com> > wrote:

High density disks, both 3.5 and 5.25, require a much higher flux level to 
write. A system designed for DD disks will not be able to write to them 
reliably. Some folks have tried HD 3.5” disks in an Amiga or Mac for example 
only to find that it reads for a while but after a few weeks or months it no 
longer does. You can generally write to lower density disks with a HD drive. 
The exception being that it is best to write 360K 5.25”disks with a 360K drive 
as the head on these drives was physically larger and the narrower track 
written by a higher density drive may not work well on all 360K drives.

My take on the TPDD is that it was designed to be cheap (simple) and portable. 
Thus, they used a simple 8-bit micro to control everything and not one of the 
floppy disc controller ASICs that were available at that time. But, they wound 
up with something that would run on AA batteries and use standard media at the 
time even if the storage capacity was limited.

 

Jeff Birt

 

 

From: M100 <m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com 
<mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com> > On Behalf Of Stephen Adolph
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 5:59 AM
To: m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> 
Subject: Re: [M100] TPDD service manual

 

this is quite interesting, and nice detective work.

It would seem like an interesting use case here could be to modify this 
firmware to make it target a standard 1.44MB floppy disk drive.

Maybe it would seem a bit backwards because SD cards are more mainstream, but 
still interesting to think about.

 

I see you have the disassembly in place.

 

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