Neat!! Appreciate the detail and random test-reply! I'm sure I can put this
to use.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 1:38 AM Brian K. White <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 4/9/21 11:22 PM, Bert Put wrote:
> > test?
> >
>
> Many, many years ago on a distant shore
> Men did gather secretly beyond a hidden door
>
> What's more appropriate for soldering than heavy metal and songs about
> hell? It's literally lead, and it's literally hot enough to melt, and
> there's even noxious fumes. Soldering is metal af. :)
>
> Got a technique pretty much down for making dip legs on pcbs out of
> plain gold plated brass jewelry wire.
>
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/mQnsaH5LVoQW2RdJ6
>
>
> Stick a dip-28 machined round socket in a breadboard.
>
> Cover the top with a piece of painters tape. I'm using green Frog tape,
> but anything like masking tape or blue painters tape will work the same.
>
> Set the pcb on top of that.
>
> Poke the brass wire down through the top of the pcb in one corner via,
> punch through the tape, into the socket, and bottom it out in the socket.
>
> Snip the wire flush with the top of the pcb.
>
> Repeat for the opposite corner.
>
> Add flux and solder those two legs. You only need to touch the heat to
> the top, The flux will tak ethe solder down into the via and the tape
> will keep the solder from going down into the socket. 2 or 3 seconds is
> generally plenty.
>
> Then repeat just the poke & cut steps for all other legs.
>
> Then solder all legs.
>
>
> The wire you want is 26 gauge gold-filled brass, half-hard.
>
> "gold filled" is like gold plated but way more gold than we actually
> need, but no one seems to sell merely gold plated wire, just bare brass
> or gold-filled.
>
> 26 gauge is thin enough to fit into machined round sockets and not even
> theoretically harm any sockets by stretching them out like ordinary
> square pins do, yet strong enough to inserted into connectors without
> bending. Prices vary pretty widely for the same product, so you should
> shop around...
>
> These are some that I actually purchased and tried and they work well:
>
> This is probably the most economical I've found so far:
>
> https://www.wirejewelry.com/round-red-brass-wire/26_Gauge_Round_Half_Hard_Red_Brass_Wire-14549-901.html
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HCMYWGN?psc=1
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Brass-Wire-Round-Half-Round-Square-14-16-18-20-21-22-24-26-28-Gauge/123161530578?var=423571461737
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/26ga-Gold-plated-copper-round-wire-4mm-015-create-wire-wrapped-jewelry-pw023/203158831071
>
>
> This one (below) does NOT work well, but only because it's thinner than
> 26 gauge despite saying 26 gauge. Perhaps 24 gauge from the same
> supplier would be perfect. Even this does work, just the legs are a bit
> thin and weak. They still do manage to insert into even fairly stiff
> sockets without folding, so really, you could use this just fine. And
> the thin/weakness of the wire does have a benefit that when you bend the
> legs accidentally from handling the finished object, you can just bend
> them back and they don't break off.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S9JFK2V
>
> This one works but is a bit softer than ideal. It does say copper not
> brass, so it makes sense. However, "dat price tho"... Stiffer brass is
> better, but this does actually work. It's just a little more delicate
> about punching through the painters tape. The legs insert into sockets
> just fine.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/26ga-Gold-plated-copper-round-wire-4mm-015-create-wire-wrapped-jewelry-pw023/203158831071
>
>
> And you want to avoid any that say "tarnish resistant" or "gold color",
> because they will actually be aluminum wire with an enamel coating.
>
> Example of what at avoid:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077ZP7H4C
>
> Exmple of what to get (I didn't actually buy this one, it's just an
> example that meets the criteria):
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZZ83F5N
>
>
> The advantage? The point of all this? Actual micro-pins from MillMax or
> Keystone are around $0.10 per pin in small quantities and don't go down
> very much in larger quantities. Punched sheet leadframe pins from
> TE-Connectivity are also about $0.10 per pin, and those are only tin
> plated not gold.
>
> This method uses under 6.0mm of wire per pin (I measured 5.88mm average
> over several pins). You can get 15,000mm of gold plated wire for $3 plus
> $3.50 shipping from the ebay one above (49feet $2.95) That's 2,500 legs
> for $0.0026 per leg, or $0.07 for an entire 28-pin pcb.
>
> And the time/care/effort needed to do the job is actually about the same
> for all 3 options.
>
> Hey gold & brass... more heavy metal.
>
> (The first two lines in this email are the first two lines in the most
> ridiculously over the top caricature of a metal tune I ever heard. So is
> the album art. Metal Church by Metal Church.)
>
> This concludes this test of the m100 list broadcast system.
>
> --
> bkw
>


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