Also, if you want to prevent the lockups, you could loop back DTR to DSR as
described earlier in this thread.

—b9

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:10 AM B 9 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for doing that direct test from your Tandy 200 to 102. That
> confirms that the Tandy 200's TELCOM program (and possibly anything that
> calls the ROM to read the serial port) is different. I hadn't known that
> before. I think it must be a bug because even a program that uses DSR to
> find out whether another device is connected shouldn't hang and require
> Shift-Break.
>
> Are there any ROM experts here who know what the difference is? Maybe
> it'll be possible to patch the Tandy 200's ROM.
>
> By the way, XON/XOFF is pretty much required. As Jim said, TELCOM does not
> support hardware handshaking.
>
> —b9
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:14 AM Cedric Amand <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm super interested in those serial problems, but I can't fully grasp
>> John's phrase below, would you please clarify and elaborate a bit ?
>>
>> > 3 wire is all the model 100 / 200 actually uses unless you're using
>> HTERM
>> > or you like the godlike simplicity of the cable check lockup, or you
>> cannot disable the cable check in software.
>>
>> I often have lockups on my M200, I'm also under the impression (but I'm
>> no expert yet) that in some way it's serial (in this case null modem)
>> implementation niside TERM differs from the one of the M102. If I do a
>> direct null modem (full cable) between a M102 and a M200, with TERM, the
>> M200 will systematically lockup when the M102 hangs up ( EXIT/F8 ) whereas
>> the reverse is not true.
>> This with both ends using (or supposed to use) hardware handshake (and
>> xon/xoff disabled)
>> This is pure observation and might be specific to my setup, of course.
>>
>> However if you could please elaborate a bit about how the M10x/M200 uses
>> the serial lines, that would be much appreciated
>>
>> I "think" from my hours of fiddling that null modem serial on the
>> M10x/M200 only works reliably with xon/xoff and the hardware only handshake
>> (at least in TERM) is flaky on the receiving end. I have yet to try HTERM.
>> (It's for sure on my todo)
>>
>>
>

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