On 2/26/23 08:25, Stephen Adolph wrote:
sorry, Ignore my pre coffee comment.  I understand now, you were taking about your design. Sheesh.


hah, well I am guilty of top-posting



On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 8:23 AM Stephen Adolph <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Brian, If I understand your comment, I don't think you need an IC to
    do rom selection. I think the DAR uses a rotary encoder.
    When I first saw the DAR, I wondered about that. I'm pretty sure I
    found the part at Digikey.  Very good!
    Steve

    On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 3:51 AM Brian White <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Gratuitous use of another chip just for 2 OR gates to implement
        a 4:2 encoder. It's all less efficient and less practical than
        the dial-a-rom, in that the dar holds 16 roms and doesn't need
        another ic, and the dar programming connection is even simpler
        and more robust.

        But it just amused me to have a direct selector without manually
        binary encoding dip switches because why not? And I didn't want
        it to require a tool to use either like a screwdriver. And of
        course I always want an open source option, and I'm not up to
        the task of coming up with an open source rex-alike but using a
        Lattice part and the open source toolchain.

        It's unfortunate timing but I had already started this at least
        3 years ago but just never finished it. A non-working version
        has been sitting in that github since 2019. A few weeks ago I
        finally dusted it off and corrected my bonehead pinout error,
        dialled-in the programming connection so it works well (the
        holes are slightly closer together than the pins, and the
        pattern and amount of offset took some trial & error) and
        replaced dip switches with the slide switch & or gates. I had no
        idea the dar was in the works. Not that it would have stopped
        me, but I just mean to say this isn't a reaction.

        It's no competition anyway because only a very few people ever
        build these diy-only things. I want them to exist so the option
        is there, but almost no one actually employs it. So this is not
        touching anyone's sales. Besides, *16* roms. And of course
        really it's even sillier when rex exists which doesn't even need
        a programmer or adapter to load it's, what, 30? slots? But for
        other platforms 4 is plenty. There's only 2 roms total for the
        600 for example. Still leaves 2 free slots for hacking.

        I just added the browser-friendly render of the schematic to the
        readme so you can see the bank-select.

-- bkw

        On Sat, Feb 25, 2023, 8:18 PM Mike Stein <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            How do you select among the 4 images?

            On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 6:50 PM Brian K. White
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                On 2/25/23 10:31, [email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
                 > Morning all,
                 >
                 > I just made this video live this AM. The DARs for the
                Model T computers
                 > have sold out already but my friend is making more.
                 >
                 > In this video we take a look at the ‘Dial-A-ROM’ a
                spiffy new multi-ROM
                 > for vintage portable computers. It was designed by
                the same guy who did
                 > the Backpack drive. First, we’ll learn how to use the
                Dial-A-ROM with
                 > the ROM images that come preinstalled on it. Then
                we’ll see how to add
                 > our own ROM images if we so desire.
                 >
                 > *https://youtu.be/CejyLsI0HIw
                <https://youtu.be/CejyLsI0HIw>
                <https://youtu.be/CejyLsI0HIw
                <https://youtu.be/CejyLsI0HIw>>
                 >
                 > Jeff Birt (Hey Birt!)*
                 >

                And for the diy-er, I finally vetted these last week:
                https://github.com/bkw777/Teeprom/blob/master/4ROM.md
                <https://github.com/bkw777/Teeprom/blob/master/4ROM.md>

-- bkw


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