Hi,
I only want to comment that I think this is very clever and useful!  Looks
like great work indeed!

A point of clarification though.  Brian, rexcpm is not usable in Tandy
200.

Cheers  Steve

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023, Ken St. Cyr <[email protected]> wrote:

> It turned out nice and looks pretty solid (at least in the pictures). I
> ordered boards and parts the other day, so I'm just waiting for those to
> arrive now. I'll report back and share my experience after getting one
> together -
>
> //Ken
> ------------------------------
> *From:* M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian K.
> White <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2023 10:18 PM
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [M100] rexcpm battery
>
> I have repaired my REXCPM and now the github readme includes pics that
> show a good way to mount a qwiic connector and where to connect bodge
> wires if you want to take on the challenge of such small loose wires
> going to such small places. All 4 solder points are at least a
> reasonable chip leg, no soldering directly to delicate traces. So the
> wires are reasonably robust in the end. You can install & remove the
> rexcpm module without straining the wires. I will probably further
> secure them with glue sometime later but haven't yet.
>
> I don't think it's worth it just to get the connector if your original
> pins are still intact, even though the connector is more convenient in
> the end, but since my original pins rotated and broke their traces
> anyway, I had to do a bodge wire repair anyway. And mounting the
> connector seems to be solid enough by super-glueing it to the top of a
> chip, and by using one of the black versions of the connector which I
> think is a material that the glue can stick to easier. The natural
> colored ones look like they might be something no glue will stick to.
> The black ones feel like they have some glass filler, and can be scuffed
> to a rough texture. Seems to be pretty solid so far though I'm not
> testing-to-destruction just to find out. :)
> single https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14417
> 10 pack https://www.adafruit.com/product/4208
>
> My rexcpm is running and working so I can resume testing battery life.
>
> I think it's safe to order pcbs if you want now. The dupont breakout
> cable is a good solution for keeping the REXCPM side of things simple
> and stock, and adding the single wire for gnd is easy, reasonably safe
> against blunders, and leaves the REXCPM still compatible with it's
> original bus board and cable.  So the bus board can keep the qwiic
> connector.
>
> I have tested the 102/200 board now too. good to go. I don't have a
> pcbway or gerbers up for that yet but will shortly.
>
> --
> bkw
>
>
> On 9/19/23 04:29, Brian K. White wrote:
> > My boards came in and at least the model 100 one works fine.
> >
> > There's room, but no good way to solder the qwiic connector to the
> > REXCPM, so the most practical way to handle the REXCPM side is just
> > use the pre-made adapter cable that has female dupont sockets, and
> > stick them right onto the original pins.
> >
> > For the GND wire, you can treat it as optional and leave that wire
> > unconnected, or add a single solid-core wire to the big cap for the
> > gnd connection. If you use 23 gauge solid core wire, or maybe a size
> > or so thicker, the wire is stiff enough to hold it's shape and thick
> > enough for a female dupont socket to stick onto it and not fall off. I
> > used 23 gauge wire from some solid core ethernet cable and that was
> > about perfect. Other common sources, thermostat wire, doorbell wire.
> >
> > Take a 25mm piece of wire, strip 3mm on one end and bend it sharp 90
> > degrees, strip 6mm on the other end, poke the wire in between the cap
> > and the 3 pins and solder the short bent end to the cap.
> >
> > Then the 4 female dupont wires go like this:
> >
> > black  (GND)     ->  wire on cap
> > red    (/WR)     ->  closest pin to cap
> > blue   (RAM)     ->  middle pin
> > yellow (RAM_RST) ->  furthest pin from cap
> >
> >
> >
> > It turns out you have to be very careful not to strain the original
> > pins on the REXCPM.. They rotate pretty easily and break the via free
> > inside the pcb, and then the traces break.
> >
> > At one point I was stuffing the gnd wire down from the top in between
> > the pin and the cap, and that put sideways strain on the pin.
> >
> > My REXCPM doesn't work now unless I hold the pins a certain way to
> > cause them to make contact.
> >
> > I have to desolder a few parts to figure out where two of the traces
> > go so I can find where to run bodge wires. Fixing the original traces
> > right where they broke at the base of the pins is probably too fragile
> > now that the vias are moving like that.
> >
> > Maybe I'll just remove the pins, fix the existing traces where they
> > broke, and solder flexible wires instead of pins where the pins used
> > to go, and secure the solder joints with glue or epoxy. Hopefully the
> > combination of the glue and the flexible wire, and being super careful
> > from now on, will be enough to keep the traces from breaking again.
> >
> > So I think the battery board is fine, and the cable connection at
> > least for model 100 is practical enough (I'd prefer a matching
> > polarized connector instead of 4 individual wires, but there is just
> > no good way to add that tiny connector that won't be too delicate and
> > just break in no time) but my rexcpm is out of commission and I can't
> > do any further real testing to get real current and voltages etc right
> > now.
> >
> > I did have it fully hooked up and running briefly before I twisted the
> > pins.
> >
> > I can't test the 102/200 board right now, and the pre-made
> > qwiic-dupont cable is only 150mm, not long enough to reach all the way
> > from the board to the rexcpm. You could add short male-female dupont
> > extensions/jumpers, but that's kind of annoying.
> >
> > For the 102/200 board, really maybe for both boards, maybe it's better
> > to just go down to 2 or 3 cells and full size generic 4-pin headers
> > instead of the qwiic connectors.
> >
> > It does work fine for the 100 version though since there is a pre-made
> > cable that is long enough all in one piece.
> >
> > I've updated the github with bom and pcbway links, and gerber zip for
> > the model 100 version.
> >
> > I say it's safe to order the 100 version at least.
> >
> > The 102/200 version I haven't worked out how best to connect to the
> > REXCPM yet.
> >
> > https://github.com/bkw777/REXCPM_UPS
> >
>
>

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