I don't think they do, but if I recall correctly, all the sheets I've ordered 
from 3DLens are polarized in the same direction. You can hold them next to each 
other before you install them to get a sense for how much light is passing 
through. Good luck!

//Ken
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From: M100 <[email protected]> on behalf of Tom Blum 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 1:26 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [M100] Restoring LCD screen

Thanks for this guidance.  The back glass is clean.  Both the reflective and 
polarizing materials have been removed and I just need to remove a bit of 
leftover adhesive.

The issue is with the front polarizer.  I'll remove that and see if I can 
eliminate the streaks.  As for the 90-degree offset between the two polarizing 
sheets, I can give it a go  -- it's my first time getting this deep into LCD 
electronics.   Do the polarizing sheets from 3DLens come with markings that 
help tell which axis the sheet is oriented:  vertical versus horizontal ?

Tom

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 10:58 AM Ken St. Cyr 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Tom -

It's a little difficult to tell from the photo, but double check that you 
removed both the reflective paper and the polarizer from the back. The entire 
piece of glass should be completely smooth - don't be afraid to use IPA and a 
razor blade to remove any leftover adhesive - just be careful not to cut the 
zebra strips.

If you've completely removed the rear polarizer, and the streaks are still 
there, then they're under the front polarizer, so you're going to need to 
remove that and replace that as well. For the replacement rear polarizer, 
you'll want a sheet of reflective polarizing film with the adhesive already 
applied (sorry, I said transflective earlier, but I wasn't thinking - a 
transflective sheet is semi-transparent to allow a backlight through). For the 
front polarizer, you'll want just a standard polarizer sheet with the adhesive 
(no reflective material added).

For the video, I used this for the rear polarizer: 
https://3dlens.com/reflective-polarizer-film-200x250mm-with-adhesive.php

And for the front polarizer, you can use something like this: 
https://3dlens.com/linear-polarizer-film-200x250mm-with-adhesive.php

So, you'll need to sandwich the glass between the two polarizers. When you do, 
you'll want to offset the polarizing film at 90-degrees from one another for 
maximum visibility. Just make sure the glass is completely clean - it should be 
smooth and streak-free on both sides.

//Ken

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From: M100 
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on behalf of Tom Blum <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2024 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [M100] Restoring LCD screen

Jeff,

Thanks for this.  The streaks and ridges are on the front-facing glass.   Is 
the next step to scrape/pull away the material on that  glass?   What will I 
replace it with when done?

From Ken's video, I understand how the transreflactive/polarizer sheet is 
installed on the back glass.  Just unclear about what happens on the 
front-facing glass.

Tom

On Fri, Aug 16, 2024, 8:30 AM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The screen is NOT clean. You are seeing clean streaks on a very dirty glass.



Jeff Birt



From: M100 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Tom Blum
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 7:14 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [M100] Restoring LCD screen



Here's the photo:




On Thu, Aug 15, 2024, 8:12 PM Tom Blum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Ken, I've watched your very helpful video multiple times.  The attached 
image shows the diagonal striations on the outward-facing  glass of the lcd 
assembly.  You can feel the malformation when running a finger across the glass 
but there is no physical issue on the back glass panel on which the replacement 
reflector/polarizer will be mounted.



No heat was used to lift the transreflective polarizer.  It actually peeled 
away beautifully (the old polarizer and reflector) with minimal glue left on 
the back glass.



Tom

On Thu, Aug 15, 2024, 4:09 PM Ken St. Cyr 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Can you share a photo of the diagonal waves? Did you heat the screen while 
removing the transflective polarizer?



FWIW, I did a polarizer replacement on an M200 screen in this video and it 
worked out great - https://youtu.be/eBRtDURtw00



//Ken



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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 3:48 PM
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Subject: [M100] Restoring LCD screen



Looking for some guidance regarding repair of Model 200 LCD.....  Purchased a 
junk M200 for parts.  About 3/4 of the LCD's reflective layer is burnt.  Was 
able to peel off the reflective layer and back polarizer.



What I notice now is that the LCD glass has a few, random diagonal waves in it, 
as if the LCD glass was heated, became fluid and then resolidified.   I was 
thinking of purchasing and installing a new combo polarizer/reflective sheet 
but am wondering if the imperfections in the glass makes restoration of the LCD 
a lost cause.



Anyone handle this before?



Tom




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