On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 11:26 PM John R. Hogerhuis <[email protected]> wrote:

I mean that programs only access memory they are documented to use. There
> is no API for this. One way would be shipping your program with a
> relocating loader which communicates to the user the memory range it will
> occupy for running and for data.
>
>> I’m beginning to think a CO file is maybe too difficult for my target
>> audience, so I ought to look into how to make a BASIC loader that takes as
>> little space as possible.
>>
> I think that's a good idea, though interestingly BASIC variants
> particularly at a tokenized BASIC level might be a bigger fork in the road
> than CO files.
>
Did someone here once tell me that any character, except for a NULL, could
be stored in a BASIC string? What about DATA statements?


> Maybe only support .DO formatted BASIC.  Or generate tokenized basic
> versions for incompatible variants.
>
A single .DO file sounds like a good idea as I would like there to be one
set of instructions so people don’t have to think and figure things out. A
program that is supposed to identify the machine type should definitely not
require people to know what kind of machine they have.

If Brian’s co2ba script is typical, BASIC’s filesize expansion is going to
be killer at about 250%. Double that in order to actually run it. (It is
mostly data, not tokenizable BASIC). For example,
File Bytes
CRCPSH.CO 1054
CRCPSH.DO 2691
CRCPSH.BA 2588

(Brian: you may want to call it co2do. From the name, I had presumed it
output only tokenized BASIC. Reading it into Virtual-T as a .BA file caused
a segmentation fault. Minor typo: The co2ba script worked once I removed
the extraneous quotation mark being added near the end of line 3. Feature
request: it’d be swell if it did a quick check against MAXRAM and refused
to crash the machine if the program length was too long.)

And I like the idea of embedding ML directly in BASIC REMs or strings,
> either with special position independent code or self-relocating. It can be
> very compact and require minimal "load time" overhead.
>
That sounds intriguing. Do you have any examples you can share? How do you
handle NULLs in the data? How do you handle programs that are too long to
fit in a single line or string?

—-b9

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