Hi, 

That is why I suggest zipping everything up periodically so that people can 
download the zip file and being on multiple machines, it's always recoverable 
to a new storage system.  

For my own website I have duplicate copies on multiple hard drives at home so I 
can always recover ... I also have the WayBackMachine scan my website once a 
year ... and I send in donations to help them keep it and Archive.org alive.  




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-----Original Message-----
From: M100 <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua O'Keefe
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2026 8:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [M100] Archival methods (was: "The Whole Enchilada" document)

> On Aug 21, 2026, at 5:24 PM, Greg Swallow <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  just can't trust any "service" to keep my data via www even when they are 
> known for being the best at it. 

At the risk of taking this even farther off-topic (although I'd argue it's 
relevant to the recent discussion on best practices for document preservation), 
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Being service- and cloud-averse boils 
down to a single thing:

Do you trust me to pay my service bill? Should you? Do you trust the service to 
keep existing and doing a good job? No matter how much we might trust a 
tried-and-true service or system, can we trust that the weak link in the chain 
won't fail?

At the end of the day, either we're putting our eggs in a storage or 
distribution basket, or we're taking it upon ourselves. Even archive.org is a 
compromise; it's about the best we've got and like everything else in life it 
comes with no guarantees. If we want to curate, archive, preserve, and spread 
what we know and how we know it, all the less-bad options involve not handing 
over the keys to the kingdom to some cloud service.

Practically? The best thing we can do is try to be conscious of our Bus Factor 
when we collect or curate information. When I throw in the towel and move into 
the hermit cave on the mountain, I want to leave enough behind that the next 
guy to care finds something other than a 404. That "next guy" might be our kids 
taking an interest in what the old guy was up to, or might be someone who winds 
up thinking something we did incidentally mattered. Best possible outcome in my 
opinion is everyone asking themselves if they're taking ownership of something 
or taking responsibility for it sticking around.

Not everyone's going to be a preservation fanatic, sure. Can't hurt to do 
better than just chuck stuff over the wall and hope for the best.

Thanks for standing this close to my soapbox. Donate to your local library.

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