Thanks a lot Ali :)

Jiayuan 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ali Saidi
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:19 AM
To: M5 users mailing list
Subject: Re: [m5-users] CMP simulation in SE mode


On May 17, 2007, at 12:26 AM, Jiayuan wrote:

> Hey Ron,
>
> Thank you so much! This helps me a lot and establishes further my  
> confidence
> in M5 :) COOL!
>
> Radix did finish executing, despite the warnings, I just want to  
> make sure
> that the system call is handled (maybe a bit confused by the  
> printing that
> says "ignoring system call ..."). I'm curious about what kind of  
> system
> calls is ignored.
>
> I'm excited about configs/splash2, but I cannot find it in m5-2.0b3
> directory after I unpack the tar ball... Is it in this released  
> version?
>
>> Please see the email discussion with Edith Hand
>> about the Splash2 benchmarks for patches that make the Splash2  
>> benchmarks
>> work and a config file that is up to date
>
> Sorry about another dummy's question: where can I find this  
> discussion? (I
> just subscribed to the m5 user mailing list...)
There on the M5 website to two services which archive all the mails  
on this mailing list.

Ali


>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Jiayuan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:m5-users- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Ronald George Dreslinski Jr
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:37 PM
> To: M5 users mailing list
> Subject: Re: [m5-users] CMP simulation in SE mode
>
>
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2007, Jiayuan wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gabe! So Alpha is the choice at this time.
>>
>> But I'm still fuzzy on the CMP simulation with M5.
>>
>> 1. is it possible to simulate a CMP under SE mode? If so, do you  
>> have any
>> example scripts on configuring the CMP architecture? (in configs/ 
>> example,
>> se.py has only one SimpleCPU configured)
>>
> Yes it is possible to simulate a CMP in SE mode.  It is easy to  
> simulate a
> multiprogrammed workload where each core is running it's own  
> process.  If
> you want a configuration that supports a multi-threaded program you  
> will
> need to modify things to handle it.  If you are looking to use  
> pthreads I
> would suggest moving to FS mode.  As for an example config there  
> isn't one
> in the release tree.  You could look at the configs in the configs/ 
> splash2
> directory and modify it to assign each CPU it's own workload.
>
>> 2. Since I have to run threads on this configuration with SE mode,  
>> I will
>> need to implement some thread creation/termination primitives in the
>> simulator. There might be other primitives as well. This may involve:
>> adding more ops to the ISA, adding a load balancer unit to the  
>> simulator
>> that creates threads (allocate stack size, set per-thread stack  
>> pointers,
>> passing thread contexts). Would you please give some hints on how to
>> implement these in M5?
>>
> You could look at the way we implemented the Splash2 benchmarks in  
> SE mode
> for an example, but again it might be easier to move to FS mode for
> multi-threaded workloads. Please see the email discussion with  
> Edith Hand
> about the Splash2 benchmarks for patches that make the Splash2  
> benchmarks
> work and a config file that is up to date.
>
>
>> 3. How Flexible is the memory system? In se.py, private L1 caches are
>> specified, and I saw in BaseCPU.py that a private L2 cache can  
>> also be
>> added, but what if I want to have private L1 caches for each core  
>> and a
>> shared L2 cache?
>>
> It is flexible enough to instantiate a private L1 and a shared L2  
> cache.
> See the configs/splash2/run.py file for how that is set up properly.
>
>
>> 4. How fast is M5? How many instructions can M5 run in one second on
>> average?
>
> This depends greatly on the configuration.  It runs faster if you use
> atomic mode and ignore the timing.  If you are using the simpleCPU  
> it will
> simulate faster than the O3 CPU.  I don;t have numbers around  
> regarding
> how common configs will run or how the number of Cores changes those
> values.  Perhaps someone else in the group has some recent data on the
> simulation rates of common configs.
>
>>> 5. Why the test case radix doesn't work under ALPHA_SE, and  
>>> instead it
>> prints out:
>> warn: loadGlobalSymbols: bad symbol header magic on
>> tests/test-progs/radix/bin/radix
>> warn: Entering event queue @ 0.  Starting simulation...
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigprocmask(3, 18446744073709551615, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigprocmask(3, 0, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(8, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(11, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(10, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(4, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(7, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(6, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(12, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(5, 4831387552, ...)
>> warn: ignoring syscall sigaction(13, 4831387552, ...)
>
> This isn't broken.  It is just a warning that gets printed out, but
> doesn't cause incorrect behavior of the code.  Does anything print out
> after this that indacates a failure?  Perhaps a abort, segfault,  
> panic,
> ...
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jiayuan
>>
>
> Hope that helps clarify things a little further,
> -Ron
>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:37 PM
>> To: M5 users mailing list; Jiayuan
>> Subject: Re: CMP simulation in SE mode + RE: [m5-users] question  
>> on test
>> code compilation
>>
>>    One thing I noticed is that you said you compiled your binaries  
>> on a
>> SunOS
>> machine. SPARC SE only supports Linux binaries at the moment, so  
>> you'll
> need
>> to
>> recompile. Also, SPARC support is not totally production ready  
>> right now,
> so
>> you
>> could quite possibly run into problems which are not your fault.  
>> If you
> need
>> something that's very likely to work, I would recommend using  
>> Alpha. If
> you
>> decide to use SPARC, please let us know of any bugs you might find  
>> and/or
>> fix.
>>
>> Gabe
>>
>> Quoting Jiayuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot Steve!
>>>
>>> I am trying to model a CMP architecture. I think at this stage, I  
>>> will
> not
>>> model OS. I would prefer to run with syscall emulation mode. So I  
>>> have
> two
>>> following questions:
>>>
>>> 1. is it possible to simulate a CMP under SE mode? If so, do you  
>>> have any
>>> example scripts on configuring the CMP architecture? (in configs/ 
>>> example,
>>> se.py has only one SimpleCPU configured)
>>>
>>> 2. Since I have to run threads on this configuration with SE  
>>> mode, I will
>>> need to implement some thread creation/termination primitives in the
>>> simulator. There might be other primitives as well. This may  
>>> involve:
>> adding
>>> more ops to the ISA, adding a load balancer unit to the simulator  
>>> that
>>> creates threads (allocate stack size, set per-thread stack pointers,
>> passing
>>> thread contexts). Would you please give some hints on how to  
>>> implement
>> these
>>> in M5?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Jiayuan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:m5-users- 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Steve Reinhardt
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:39 PM
>>> To: M5 users mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [m5-users] question on test code compilation
>>>
>>> M5 can run pthreads binaries in full-system mode, which means you're
>>> restricted to Alpha for now.
>>>
>>> There are directions on building a gcc-based cross compiler here:
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.m5sim.org/wiki/index.php/Using_linux- 
> dist_to_Create_Disk_Images_a
>>> nd_Kernels_for_M5
>>>
>>> Note that you just need to follow the first section (on building the
>>> cross compiler); the other parts on building a new kernel are
>>> unnecessary if you're just compiling new applications.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Jiayuan Meng wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am a starter on M5, and I'm interested in simulating a  
>>>> multithreaded
>>>> program on a CMP architecture. My question is, can M5 run programs
>>>> written with pthreads? what crosscompiler do you recommend to  
>>>> compile C
>>>> or C++ code on a x86 host to SPARC/ALPHA binaries that can be  
>>>> run on M5?
>>>>
>>>> I tried to compile helloworld code on UltraSparc IIIi/SunOS  
>>>> using gcc
>>>> version 3.3.6. However, the sparc binary generates faults when  
>>>> the code
>>>> is run on M5. Would you please give me some hints?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Jiayuan
>>>>
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