Thanks for the comments Vilias and Philip.

I have a few more questions. Looking at the previous tutorial slides, it doesn't seem like there is much history (just a couple of slides), am I missing something? By overview I'm assuming that you mean the majority of the presentation (and not just the first section titled as such). Without the overview slides about various objects do you think a section on, "adding feature X to component Y," would make sense? I think it's a good idea to do something like that, I'm just trying to figure out what can be cut to make room (since we're limited to about the same amount of time).

Thanks,
Ali


On Feb 11, 2008, at 12:47 PM, Vilas Sridharan wrote:

I'm not sure what 'typical' usage of M5 looks like, but I for one spend a lot of time understanding the existing code (both C++ and Python) in order to modify / extend it -- as opposed to either using it as is or writing entirely new code. I think more emphasis in a tutorial on how to use M5 in that capacity (and less on history / overview) would be helpful.

I personally wasn't familiar with Python, so I had to spend a lot of time understanding (relatively simple) Python code -- for example, the code provided in se.py or fs.py -- in order to change it to suit my needs. It would be great if you could cover the basics of the Python infrastructure -- and perhaps use one of those files as part of the example (since they are likely the most commonly used Python files, from a user perspective).

Echoing Philip's suggestion, perhaps the 'complete example' he suggests could be a 'How to' for a (simple) modification to the existing code? You wouldn't need to actually dwell on the details of the new feature, but it would allow you to highlight a variety of areas in the simulator in the process.

   -Vilas

On Feb 11, 2008 12:35 AM, Philip Machanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I took a quick look at the ISCA 2006 tutorial and it reads well as an
overview of a manual but a complete example including a good fraction
(obvious not all) of the features at the end would be a useful
addition to put it all together.

A possible approach: use pieces of this complete example to introduce
the features, then go over the whole thing at the end.

On 2/11/08, Ali Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Everyone,
>
> Below is roughly the outline we've used for previous M5 tutorials.
> We're in the process of updating our slides for the ASPLOS tutorial in > a few weeks and would like any input you have. Irrespective of if you
> plan to attend the tutorial or not we would like input about what
> should be covered in more detail and what we're spending too much time
> on.
>
> Thanks,
> Ali
>
>
> Introduction & Overview
>         History
>         Attributes
>         Objects/Events/Modes
>         Current work (lots has change)
>         Future Work (lots has changed)
> Compiling and Running M5
>         Source Tree
>         Building
>         Output files
>         Checkpoints
>         Simpoints
> Full system workloads
>         Network workloads
>         Parts of a workload
> Current M5 Object models
>         CPU Models
>                 Time buffers
>                 Templates
>                 Checker
>                 State
>         Memory System
>                 Requests/Packets
>                 Access modes
>                 Interconnects
>                 Caches
>                 Coherence
>         I/O
>                 Device overview
>                 Disks
>                 NICs
> Extending M5
>         M5 Internals
>         Configurations
>         Serialization
>         Events
>         ISA description
>         Statistics
> Debugging M5
>         Tracing
>         Debugger
>         Remote debugger
> Wrapup
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