John, I will miss you texturally dense collage-like posts. Will you 
still keep me on your mailing list for the magazine, please. please 
and other things. You can always stay listed but inactive and just 
pop in with a John Barlow-update every once in a while.
 

Dawn Amato--- 

In [email protected], JRBarlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> i considered delisting yesterday - partly because i don't feel 
> purely like a mail artist in the same sense - i do densely 
> collaged little magazines as ive said, and do in fact mail them, 
> and make weird often decorated and strange envelopes - 
> but thats only borderline to the postcard and all 
collage/clipping/ink
> contents style, and the shared history and particular focuses, 
> and love the idea of good unique postal mail, as well as
> just as often as not enjoying the blog and website etc 
> version of the mailart world, and its internationalism. 
> some of your websites are amazing. 
> 
> but not just that.  the listposts on this group very often 
> are calls from perfect strangers without a lot of context 
> so that it would become a task of mailing something 
> at expense and time, and practically not knowing why. 
> a little more drive on the sense of purpose could wake 
> more basis for imagining. 
> 
> so anyway i was thinking of minimal basis for being on, 
> and finding it gloomy, a bit? so thought at last conclusively 
> to delist. first i tried signing on to one of the other 
> similarly named ones, the new one mentioned, 
> but wrote in the why do you want to join section 
> that i wanted to see contrast of another list 
> and hoped it would be more contextualized and 
> discussional... more than 200 digits and it seems 
> once you've got the automatic technology 
> tangled a computer catch 22 develops, 
> i was sure the last try was less than 200 keystrokes
> so gave up, and returned to the idea of just delisting 
> from the mailart world altogether. all of the people
> seem very nice but directly connected enough 
> especially overseas to spend $5 mailing? 
> what if they don't care, or have stacks of 
> 'mail they haven't gotten to yet' ? 
> 
> i don't do things to add clutter to the world, 
> nor spend money to do so. 
> 
> anyway, i made up my mind i'd write systek fabrika
> making certain there was no ill thought, only thanks, 
> about the whole thing, but that i just thought i should delist 
> ...for the above reasons... then would go to 
> a msg and click on unsubscribe 
> 
> however as always i could not. how be so final, 
> how cast a negative vote, how conclude, why end?
> it's always amazed me to be hearing from all these places 
> even if not necessarily having a truly vivid sense of it. 
> still tho, ive seen practically no conflict, but also 
> not much context. 
> 
> there are calls for projects, but then there is discussion. 
> what to discuss? 
> 
> i think there was an issue some time ago about 
> email not being supplementary to mailart but supplanting it, 
> so that it was only an email group, not a mailart group, 
> and since then there's been very little discussion
> and mostly oblique posts about projects, 
> and writeups of mailart shows. 
> 
> ps re kevin's comment, there's 'we're all dying gradually'
> or, there's global war and class division doom resulting 
> in tiring amounts of dying, which kevin might have meant, 
> or there is also perhaps specific people are dying 
> thus 'respectful silence' --- 
> all three possibilities are gloomy 
> and up here it's cold, and people are 
> dying, 
> 
> but mailing spectacular things 
> AND emailing about the meaning and purpose
> and intention, is, a perfectly fine thing to do. 
> 
> think what it would mean to do so 
> if one was very rapidly and immanently dying? 
> thats always a great drastically meaningful thing to do. 
> those not immanently drastically rapidly dying 
> could at least partly be glad of that fact 
> while keeping it in mind in a greater sense
> or... not! enjoy your freedom. you could be a volunteer tutor 
> or work in a soup kitchen. i'm not suggesting limitting options 
> 
> but there is a kind of high price of meaning in this year's world 
> as the world leaderships plannings don't exactly 
> seem to be turning corners in a hopeful way. 
> someone who knows better than i 
> nonetheless suggested to me: don't read newspapers 
> liberate poetry, make it free of these problems. 
> (and would certainly include art) 
> 
> which is to say he suggested than poetry and art
> had life which obsessing over newspapers did not
> 
>  john barlow, and if you'd like to mail any last things 
>  104 - 54 howland ave 
>   toronto on m5r 3b3  canada 
> (no cocaine please, none, please no white powder, etc etc, john 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- kevin thurston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > it has been pointed out that perhaps i over-reacted
> > everyone is alive
> > 
> > On 12/5/05, Alice Kitselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey all, it's too quiet. AM I not getting emails or all we all 
just
> > > busy????
> > > Dragonfly Dream
> > > www.dragonflydream.com
> > >
> > >   "Paradise is exactly like where you are right now... only 
much, much
> > > better."
> > >              -- Laurie Anderson
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Oh fuck.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>               
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