>The person committing suicide is not always in a
> position to see clearly, and may need help.
Who would know best? Someone else? wake up?
> 
> I have known people who have attempted suicide and
> are now living meaningful lives.
I know people who are thwarted periodically. It seems
very unsupportive.
I know people who are killing themselves in a number
of socially acceptable ways; most involving alcohol.

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