Dragonfl,
   
  Thank you for listing me as one of your favorites. some of mine... well 
always been fond of Duchamp... and Joseph Beuys....  I also like Christo... as 
an art student at CalStU Sacramento I helped work with a bunch of other people 
on the Running Fence.... and had the priviledge of meeting Richard 
Diebenkorn....Also like Rauschenburg... jasper johns and their connection with 
John Cage/Merce Cunningham and the whole Black Mountain College clan.... it is 
interesting to note that Ray Johnson was a student at Black Mountain 
College..... I guess Duchamp and Beuys had the greatest influence on me... 
especially Beuys when I was doing a lot of performance art... also fluxus 
influences.. yoko ono!!! 
   
  now I like Elvis on Velvet painting! :)... Just kidding!
   
  John

Dragonfly Dream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
            On May 22, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Reid Wood wrote:
  Dragonfly-
  

  >You've opened up a potentially year-long discussion with this first 
paragraph. 
  

  

  Yeah, that would be nice! I really do love to have these conversations.
  

  >A question - you said as a young adult, you didn't get the work at the 
Whitney. Do you now (I'm sure you still fit in the young adult category)?
  

   LOL, yes, I am not quite yet 50, so still young, eh? As for "getting" the 
art at the Whitney, well, umm, some I get, some I don't. A couple of years back 
I was able to attend the biennial there and saw all kinds of wonderful odd art. 
The place was packed and so it was heard to see much of anything really. I 
recall a wall piece that were words taped formed by burned matches taped on the 
wall. I actually liked this and even thought about doing something like that as 
mail art. 
  

  > Yes, Tintoretto, Bellini, Raphael, Leonard and the like created some 
beautiful paintings. Of that group I like some of those artists better than 
others and some of their paintings better than others. Even at that time there 
were artists who felt that they needed to break away from the style of the High 
Renaissance, and so you have styles like Mannerism. It seems by the artists you 
mentioned and the more contemporary examples from the Whitney you alluded to 
you place a high value on illusionistic rendering as a determinant for what is 
art. Is that true, or am I reading too much into your examples?
  

   I was just siting some of those incredible artists I was able to view as a 
kid. My almost 46 year old self likes stuff more on the contemporary side. 
Folks like the following wet my whistle and fan my fires..
  

  Christo
  Helen Frankenthaler
  Wiliem de Kooning
  Richard Diebenkorn
  Jim Dine
  Red Grooms
  Keith Harring
  Louise Nevelson
  Claes Oldenburg
  Robert Rauschenburg
  Mark Rothko
  

  of course the list could go on and on, and let me not forget to mention some 
of my other favorites below!
  

   Lena Bartula -mixed media and installation artist
  John Chiaromonte - mixed media artist
   Alexandra Eldridge -mixed media artist
   Cynthia Fusillo -mixed media and installation artist
   Jorge Leyva -painter 
   K. Moss -collage, art dolls, beaded jewelry
  Darlene Olivia McElroy -mixed media and collage
   Cris Parks -fluid painting
  

  

         




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