For the last time HTC phones do not allow you to use your track pad to
select numbers in a call.  Code factery "Marcus Sharman" has been
shown this on skype by me.  Sorry, I lost pay over showing him this
because I took a morning off of work showing him this issue.  I am not
sure about Samson phones but I do not for a fact that HTC phones do
not allow any access to the system dial because of the HTC bull shit"
or HTC sense UI.  Sorry for the strong language but I wish some people
would listen to what I have to say.  You’re going to have to use
talkback or spiel to use the eye's free keyboard to dial in a system
call.  Ask mike areago, he will tell you the same thing.  I have a HTC
4G, the original one not the slider, so I do know what I am saying as
far as HTC phones.  This will be the last HTC phone I get, its going
to be the Samson nexus when T-mobile gets it for me.  Take care, sorry
for the language but I currently have a HTC phone

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>>I sure will.  the amaze is supposed to be one of their top of the
>>line phones, so we'll see if it will behave and everything.
>>
>>I'm due to get it on Monday so wish me luck.
>>
>>Jenny
>>On Apr 21, 2012, at 12:24 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> > let me know how it goes. i am with t-mobile and have the motorola
>> charm that has been left behind by the manufacturer and t-mobile.
>> am looking for something new and maybe even switching cariers.
>> >
>> >
>> > Legend has it that on Friday 4/20/2012 10:32 PM, Jenny Keller said:
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> >> thanks for the information.  The amaze is already on its way
>> though so we'll see how it works.
>> >>
>> >> I have thirty day in case it doesn't work out.
>> >>
>> >> Jenny
>> >> On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Sara Litzler wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > hello my name is Sara I am with t-mobile and I have the 4 g side kick
>> >> > and some one who is with t-mobile.
>> >> > I always tell blind peple to get the 4 g sied kick or the my
>> tuch 4 g slide.
>> >> > These phones work good with talk bakc, mobile accessibility and other
>> >> > screen readers.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 4/20/12, [email protected]
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>> >> >>      track   pad only? (Dusty Tague)
>> >> >>   2. Re: Re: ma_mailing Digest, Vol 251, Issue 2 (Pedro M.)
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>> >> >> Message: 1
>> >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:01:05 -0600
>> >> >> From: Dusty Tague <[email protected]>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [MA] Will I be able to use menues with the phone with
>> >> >> the
>> >> >>      track   pad only?
>> >> >> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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>> >> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jenny, I recommend, if you haven't entered into a new contract with
>> >> >> t-mobile yet, because though you can return your phone in thirty
>> >> >> days,
>> >> >> you only have fifteen days to cancel your contract and go back to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> previous plan, you might want to wait until the mother's day sale
>> >> >> where
>> >> >> it is rumored that tmo will offer all phones for free.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Depending on htc's interface, the track pad should work in the phone
>> >> >> dialer for making telephonic entries to automated systems, though
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> might need another dialer for dialing phone calls themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 4/20/2012 6:32 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> >> >>> The only 2.3 out there that I can get without a qwerty just
>> has a track
>> >> >>> pad.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Should that be all right to enter number during phone calls
>> if I have to
>> >> >>> use menues using numbers while on a call, or should I
>> request one with a
>> >> >>> qwerty too.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> thanks for your patience.
>> >> >>>
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>> >> >> Message: 2
>> >> >> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:53:40 -0400
>> >> >> From: "Pedro M." <[email protected]>
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [MA] Re: ma_mailing Digest, Vol 251, Issue 2
>> >> >> To: "Mobile Accessibility Android Users List"
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jenny:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> if you are looking to stick to t-mobile, just wait a while
>> they are going to
>> >> >>
>> >> >> come out with a couple of phones with a full phisicle keyboard.
>> >> >> if not you might want to look into sprint, boost, or vergen
>> mobile phones.
>> >> >> verizon, has a few cool phones, that have qwerty keyboard.
>> >> >> HTH.
>> >> >> good luck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Jenny Keller
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:30 AM
>> >> >> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [MA] Re: ma_mailing Digest, Vol 251, Issue 2
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jenny
>> >> >> On Apr 20, 2012, at 9:15 AM, danny mathis wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> What you could do is just have MA's home screen/sweet as your home
>> >> >>> screen but bee running talkback as well. I am currently running
>> >> >>> eye's
>> >> >>> free shell, ma is on the first screen on my eye's free shell
>> >> >>> because I
>> >> >>> like its dialer at this time.  I Love ma's keyboard but dialing in
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> call with my phone is not possible unless the eye's free keyboard
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> beeing used.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 4/20/12, danny mathis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Yes you can use phone menu's with a trackpad but you will have to
>> >> >>>> use
>> >> >>>> the eye's free keyboard with talkback and MA running at the
>> same time.
>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >>>>> From: Jenny Keller <[email protected]>
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>> >> >>>>> the
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>> >> >>>>> The only 2.3 out there that I can get without a qwerty
>> just has a track
>> >> >>>>> pad.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Should that be all right to enter number during phone
>> calls if I have
>> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >>>>> use
>> >> >>>>> menues using numbers while on a call, or should I request one
>> >> >>>>> with a
>> >> >>>>> qwerty
>> >> >>>>> too.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> thanks for your patience.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Message: 3
>> >> >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:39:35 -0400
>> >> >>>>> From: "Alphonso McFadden" <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>> To: "Mobile Accessibility Android Users List"
>> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> >> >>>>> reply-type=original
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Cindy, why don't you think we will get the update? I have the
>> >> >>>>> same
>> >> >>>>> phone!
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Alphonso
>> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>>> From: "Cynthia Detro" <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
>> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:56 PM
>> >> >>>>> Subject: RE: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Keep in mind you are only using Android 2.1 Ecclaire, and
>> some of the
>> >> >>>>>> features, such as voice input, weren't introduced into Mobile
>> >> >>>>>> Accessibility
>> >> >>>>>> for version 2.1, only 2.2 Froyo and up. If the 2.3 phone has no
>> >> >>>>>> physical
>> >> >>>>>> keyboard then you would use the virtual keyboard. So it
>> is really your
>> >> >>>>>> choice what you prefer in the end. I, myself, do prefer a
>> >> >>>>>> physical
>> >> >>>>>> keyboard,
>> >> >>>>>> hence why I have the Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost
>> Mobile. It is
>> >> >>>>>> right
>> >> >>>>>> now running 2.3 4, and I wish it would get an update to
>> ICS, but sadly
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> don't think that will happen. Ah well. Hope this helps.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Cindy and "Mesa"
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> >> >>>>>> Jennifer
>> >> >>>>>> Perdue
>> >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:06 PM
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I spoke to t-mobile and they could either offer me a
>> Samsung Gravity
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> qwerty keyboard which is 2.1, or a LG, I forget the name
>> of it, but it
>> >> >>>>>> also
>> >> >>>>>> had a qwerty keyboard, but it had nothing screen on that
>> slider part
>> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>> so
>> >> >>>>>> I figured the qwerty would be smaller in size and harder
>> to deal with
>> >> >>>>>> even
>> >> >>>>>> though it was a 2.3.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I hope I made the right decision getting the regular qwerty, but
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> have
>> >> >>>>>> thirty days to decide whether I like it or not.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 4:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I think you may be confused.  Phones with physical
>> keyboards usually
>> >> >>>>>>> slide
>> >> >>>>>> or flip open.  This allows for very rapid typing speeds as
>> >> >>>>>> compared
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> virtual keyboard.  Most carriers off at least one phone fortheir
>> >> >>>>>> android
>> >> >>>>>> package with a physical keyboard.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Best,
>> >> >>>>>>> Chris
>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>> Message: 4
>> >> >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:55:10 -0400
>> >> >>>>> From: danny mathis <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Subject: [MA] Re: ma_mailing Digest, Vol 251, Issue 1
>> >> >>>>> To: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>> Message-ID:
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>> >> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Also with out  a keyboard dialing in a call screen
>> currently is a pain
>> >> >>>>> in the butt using MA's keyboard until this issue is
>> resolved in 2.3 or
>> >> >>>>> Gingerbred.  Currently I am using MA's apps to make and manage my
>> >> >>>>> contacts and another app to text because I like text talk better
>> >> >>>>> for
>> >> >>>>> texting.
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>>  1. Re: Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3 android?
>> >> >>>>>>     (Jennifer Perdue)
>> >> >>>>>>  2. Re: Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3 android?
>> >> >>>>>>     ([email protected])
>> >> >>>>>>  3. Re: Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3 android?
>> >> >>>>>>     (Jennifer Perdue)
>> >> >>>>>>  4. RE: Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3 android?
>> >> >>>>>>     (Cynthia Detro)
>> >> >>>>>>  5. I have a choice. Could you help me make the best one?
>> >> >>>>>>     (Jennifer Perdue)
>> >> >>>>>>  6. Re: I have a choice. Could you help me make the best one?
>> >> >>>>>>     ([email protected])
>> >> >>>>>>  7. Re: unsuscribe  (David Rolon)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 1
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:11:49 -0500
>> >> >>>>>> From: Jennifer Perdue <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>> To: [email protected], Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> thanks for the info.  Maybe when I have the money, they'll have
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> different
>> >> >>>>>> phone that is free for the promotion.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Dusty Tague wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> the virtual keyboard will work just fine.  It is the need for
>> >> >>>>>>> physical
>> >> >>>>>>> navigational controls that might require a physical
>> one.  If you get
>> >> >>>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>>> phone with just a physical track pad or trackball, it
>> will work just
>> >> >>>>>>> fine.
>> >> >>>>>>> The only time you might want a physical keyboard is for dialing
>> >> >>>>>>> extensions or selecting options in a telephonic menu tree and
>> >> >>>>>>> even
>> >> >>>>>>> then,
>> >> >>>>>>> on the phones that have them, the physical track balls
>> and pads will
>> >> >>>>>>> help
>> >> >>>>>>> you there as well.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On 4/18/2012 5:21 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>> thanks.  I was hoping though, that I wouldn't have to carry a
>> >> >>>>>>>> separate
>> >> >>>>>>>> keyboard.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Why won't the virtual keyboard on the phone work?
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> just because it is made from apple doesn't mean it
>> shouldn't work.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>> thing i would suggest is going to a t mobile store.    seeing
>> >> >>>>>>>>> if
>> >> >>>>>>>>> they
>> >> >>>>>>>>> allow u to test your keyboard on a phone or two that u may
>> >> >>>>>>>>> like
>> >> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >> >>>>>>>>> may
>> >> >>>>>>>>> be on display.  this way, u can be sure that your
>> keyboard will or
>> >> >>>>>>>>> would
>> >> >>>>>>>>> work.
>> >> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 2
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT)
>> >> >>>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID:
>> >> >>>>>> <1087599920.1.1334871984451.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I think you may be confused.  Phones with physical
>> keyboards usually
>> >> >>>>>> slide
>> >> >>>>>> or flip open.  This allows for very rapid typing speeds as
>> >> >>>>>> compared
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> virtual keyboard.  Most carriers offe at least one phone
>> >> >>>>>> fortheir
>> >> >>>>>> android
>> >> >>>>>> package with a physical keyboard.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Best,
>> >> >>>>>> Chris
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 3
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:05:50 -0500
>> >> >>>>>> From: Jennifer Perdue <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I spoke to t-mobile and they could either offer me a
>> Samsung Gravity
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> qwerty keyboard which is 2.1, or a LG, I forget the name
>> of it, but it
>> >> >>>>>> also
>> >> >>>>>> had a qwerty keyboard, but it had nothing screen on that
>> slider part
>> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>> so
>> >> >>>>>> I figured the qwerty would be smaller in size and harder
>> to deal with
>> >> >>>>>> even
>> >> >>>>>> though it was a 2.3.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I hope I made the right decision getting the regular qwerty, but
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> have
>> >> >>>>>> thirty days to decide whether I like it or not.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 4:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I think you may be confused.  Phones with physical
>> keyboards usually
>> >> >>>>>>> slide
>> >> >>>>>>> or flip open.  This allows for very rapid typing speeds
>> as compared
>> >> >>>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>>> the virtual keyboard.  Most carriers off at least one
>> phone fortheir
>> >> >>>>>>> android package with a physical keyboard.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Best,
>> >> >>>>>>> Chris
>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 4
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:56:32 -0400
>> >> >>>>>> From: "Cynthia Detro" <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAC3tDLFNphFFoofQF94Og5/[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Keep in mind you are only using Android 2.1 Ecclaire, and
>> some of the
>> >> >>>>>> features, such as voice input, weren't introduced into Mobile
>> >> >>>>>> Accessibility
>> >> >>>>>> for version 2.1, only 2.2 Froyo and up. If the 2.3 phone has no
>> >> >>>>>> physical
>> >> >>>>>> keyboard then you would use the virtual keyboard. So it
>> is really your
>> >> >>>>>> choice what you prefer in the end. I, myself, do prefer a
>> >> >>>>>> physical
>> >> >>>>>> keyboard,
>> >> >>>>>> hence why I have the Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost
>> Mobile. It is
>> >> >>>>>> right
>> >> >>>>>> now running 2.3 4, and I wish it would get an update to
>> ICS, but sadly
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> don't think that will happen. Ah well. Hope this helps.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Cindy and "Mesa"
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> >> >>>>>> Jennifer
>> >> >>>>>> Perdue
>> >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:06 PM
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will mobile accessability work on a 2.3
>> >> >>>>>> android?
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I spoke to t-mobile and they could either offer me a
>> Samsung Gravity
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> qwerty keyboard which is 2.1, or a LG, I forget the name
>> of it, but it
>> >> >>>>>> also
>> >> >>>>>> had a qwerty keyboard, but it had nothing screen on that
>> slider part
>> >> >>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>> so
>> >> >>>>>> I figured the qwerty would be smaller in size and harder
>> to deal with
>> >> >>>>>> even
>> >> >>>>>> though it was a 2.3.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I hope I made the right decision getting the regular qwerty, but
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> have
>> >> >>>>>> thirty days to decide whether I like it or not.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 4:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I think you may be confused.  Phones with physical
>> keyboards usually
>> >> >>>>>>> slide
>> >> >>>>>> or flip open.  This allows for very rapid typing speeds as
>> >> >>>>>> compared
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>> virtual keyboard.  Most carriers off at least one phone fortheir
>> >> >>>>>> android
>> >> >>>>>> package with a physical keyboard.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Best,
>> >> >>>>>>> Chris
>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 5
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:08:47 -0500
>> >> >>>>>> From: Jennifer Perdue <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: [MA] I have a choice. Could you help me make the best
>> >> >>>>>> one?
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I have a choice between the phone with the qwerty keyboard which
>> >> >>>>>> is
>> >> >>>>>> running
>> >> >>>>>> 2.1, or a My Touch 4 which runs 2.3.  It only has a track
>> pad on it.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> my only concern is that with the My Touch, you wouldn't be able
>> >> >>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>> input
>> >> >>>>>> numbers if asked to in phone menus when you call a
>> business.  Can you
>> >> >>>>>> do
>> >> >>>>>> that with the track pad, or are you pretty much up a creek if
>> >> >>>>>> you
>> >> >>>>>> don't
>> >> >>>>>> have
>> >> >>>>>> a qwerty.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I don't want to be
>> >> >>>>>> stuck
>> >> >>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> phone I hate,like the qwerty because I'm not good at
>> those.  However,
>> >> >>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> don't want to get a phone with a track pad and virtual
>> key pad, which
>> >> >>>>>> I'm
>> >> >>>>>> good at, but not be able to access menues during phone calls.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> thanks in advance for your patience.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Jenny
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 6
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:41:50 -0500
>> >> >>>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] I have a choice. Could you help me make the
>> >> >>>>>> best
>> >> >>>>>> one?
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> well, i wouldn't recommend the 2.1, i have a 2.1 device and most
>> >> >>>>>> of
>> >> >>>>>> the software is now being written for 2.2 and above leaving 2.1
>> >> >>>>>> behind. the device i have was supposed to receive a second
>> >> >>>>>> update
>> >> >>>>>> when i purchased, but shortly after the purchase motorola and
>> >> >>>>>> t-mobile decided that it wouldn't update the device
>> leaving me with a
>> >> >>>>>> device that will soon not be supported by most of the
>> software on the
>> >> >>>>>> market.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Legend has it that on Thursday 4/19/2012 09:08 PM, Jennifer
>> >> >>>>>> Perdue
>> >> >>>>>> said:
>> >> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I have a choice between the phone with the qwerty
>> keyboard which is
>> >> >>>>>>> running 2.1, or a My Touch 4 which runs 2.3.  It only
>> has a track pad
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> on
>> >> >>>>>>> it.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> my only concern is that with the My Touch, you wouldn't be able
>> >> >>>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>>> input numbers if asked to in phone menus when you call a
>> >> >>>>>>> business.  Can you do that with the track pad, or are you
>> >> >>>>>>> pretty
>> >> >>>>>>> much up a creek if you don't have a qwerty.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I don't want to be
>> >> >>>>>>> stuck
>> >> >>>>>>> with a phone I hate,like the qwerty because I'm not good at
>> >> >>>>>>> those.  However, I don't want to get a phone with a track pad
>> >> >>>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>>> virtual key pad, which I'm good at, but not be able to
>> access menues
>> >> >>>>>>> during phone calls.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> thanks in advance for your patience.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Jenny_______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>>>> [email protected]
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>> >> >>>>>> sendspace offerings!
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Message: 7
>> >> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:57:42 -0400
>> >> >>>>>> From: David Rolon <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] unsuscribe
>> >> >>>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Cc: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 10:41 PM, [email protected]
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> well, i wouldn't recommend the 2.1, i have a 2.1 device
>> and most of
>> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>> software is now being written for 2.2 and above leaving
>> 2.1 behind.
>> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>> device i have was supposed to receive a second update when i
>> >> >>>>>>> purchased,
>> >> >>>>>>> but shortly after the purchase motorola and t-mobile
>> decided that it
>> >> >>>>>>> wouldn't update the device leaving me with a device that will
>> >> >>>>>>> soon
>> >> >>>>>>> not
>> >> >>>>>>> be
>> >> >>>>>>> supported by most of the software on the market.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Legend has it that on Thursday 4/19/2012 09:08 PM, Jennifer
>> >> >>>>>>> Perdue
>> >> >>>>>>> said:
>> >> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I have a choice between the phone with the qwerty
>> keyboard which is
>> >> >>>>>>>> running 2.1, or a My Touch 4 which runs 2.3.  It only has a
>> >> >>>>>>>> track
>> >> >>>>>>>> pad
>> >> >>>>>>>> on
>> >> >>>>>>>> it.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> my only concern is that with the My Touch, you wouldn't
>> be able to
>> >> >>>>>>>> input
>> >> >>>>>>>> numbers if asked to in phone menus when you call a business.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Can
>> >> >>>>>>>> you
>> >> >>>>>>>> do
>> >> >>>>>>>> that with the track pad, or are you pretty much up a creek if
>> >> >>>>>>>> you
>> >> >>>>>>>> don't
>> >> >>>>>>>> have a qwerty.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but I don't want
>> to be stuck
>> >> >>>>>>>> with
>> >> >>>>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>>>> phone I hate,like the qwerty because I'm not good at those.
>> >> >>>>>>>> However,
>> >> >>>>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>>>> don't want to get a phone with a track pad and virtual key
>> >> >>>>>>>> pad,
>> >> >>>>>>>> which
>> >> >>>>>>>> I'm
>> >> >>>>>>>> good at, but not be able to access menues during phone calls.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> thanks in advance for your patience.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Jenny_______________________________________________
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>> >> >>>>> Message: 5
>> >> >>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:58:01 -0500
>> >> >>>>> From: [email protected]
>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Will I be able to use menues with the
>> phone with the
>> >> >>>>> track pad only?
>> >> >>>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> >> >>>>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> with MA, you should be able to use the touch screen and the
>> >> >>>>> numeric
>> >> >>>>> keyboard to enter numbers i believe. haven't tried this,
>> but will see
>> >> >>>>> if i can do it with MA under android v2.1.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Legend has it that on Friday 4/20/2012 07:32 AM, Jenny Keller
>> >> >>>>> said:
>> >> >>>>> ----------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>> The only 2.3 out there that I can get without a qwerty just has
>> >> >>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>> track
>> >> >>>>>> pad.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Should that be all right to enter number during phone calls if I
>> >> >>>>>> have to use menues using numbers while on a call, or should I
>> >> >>>>>> request one with a qwerty too.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> thanks for your patience.
>> >> >>>>>>
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