yeah, well I just did a podcast on my ICS page about the latest version of
mobile accessibility, and it has been tweeted, and it will also find its way
on facebook as well.

while I do agree with people that say we are complainging, and that we
should be gratefull with what we have. consider this.  you say a year ago,
you didn't think somjething like this would be around? lets take a look at
spiel, and talkback. and talkback has come quite a long way sence last year.
they are at least listening to people that submit bug reports, suggestions,
and what not.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of blindbites
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:44 PM
To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
Subject: Re: [MA] Braille support goes Android with Mobile Accessibility

Here's an idea, instead of just complaining on a list where it appears 
nobody is listening, how about in a more public setting like twitter or 
facebook? I am now following @codefactory and replied to their tweet 
about the new version of MA. I'm not expecting a reply but thought at 
least its out there in the open.
Steve


On 5/24/2012 1:38 PM, Sharif Jones wrote:
> While I understand ware that makes sense, I can also understan those that
u
> say are complaining.   U may be right when u say at least cf is trying.
> However when u. Have google improve a screen reader that they aren't
> getting paid for verses a company who is not improving there's and they do
> get paid, it makes u wonder.  In adition, how can a company improve if no
> one says anything complaining or not.
> On May 24, 2012 2:32 PM, "Courtney Tater"<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Yes, you would pair a supported braille device through bluetooth.
>>
>> ***MOBILE
>> Courtney Tater
>>
>> Danielle<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Would u do it through bluetooth?
>>>
>>> Courtney Tater<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You would first pair it with your phone then go to ma settings /
braille
>>>> settings and select the apex from the braille device models screen.
>>>>
>>>> ***MOBILE
>>>> Courtney Tater
>>>>
>>>> Danielle<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How would u set up the apex to use the braille display?
>>>>>
>>>>> Courtney Tater<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The refreshavraille is not yet supported. The only braillenote
product
>>>>>> supported is the Apex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***MOBILE
>>>>>> Courtney Tater
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the braille support option, will it work with a refreshabraille
>>>>>>> or braillenote? I have both and want to try It out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mobeen Iqbal<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wrote them about a month or 2 ago detailing bugs  i'd found, it
>>>>>>>> looks like none of them have been resolved. its a real shame as
others were
>>>>>>>> requesting the same features. The only time i got a response was
when i
>>>>>>>> wrote them directly, are we then to assume they don't read this
list?
>>>>>>>> braille is invaluable but unaffordable for the masses as you said.
anyway
>>>>>>>> no point ranting on here any further, better go open a support
ticket.
>>>>>>>> reminds me of the anti climax when the iPhone 4S came a long...
they may
>>>>>>>> have released because they'd been promising a release for a while.
>>>>>>>> personally i wouldn't have gone ahead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2012 17:09, Sharif Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is something I emailed cf this morning about.  More features.
>>>>>>>> When reading about updates, the only thing it said was braille
support.
>>>>>>>> while that is ok and all, a lot of people will not benifit from
that cause
>>>>>>>> braille devices are higher than they need to be and people just
don't have
>>>>>>>> monies to spend on that sort of thing.  Well, some don't anyway.
Along
>>>>>>>> with righting on this list, I also incurrage u all to actually
email cf
>>>>>>>> directly.  It may get some ware and it may not but at least u
tried.
>>>>>>>> On May 24, 2012 11:54 AM, "Mobeen Iqbal"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   You took the words out of my mouth. The last i heard, contacts
>>>>>>>>> were still being synced with google weather you liked it or not
and it
>>>>>>>>> still wasn't possible to send an sms over 3 lines long. not to
mention bugs
>>>>>>>>> with email i.e not moving messages to the bin. If braille is the
only item
>>>>>>>>> that's been added for support just because the iPhone had it
first, then
>>>>>>>>> its quite disappointing. don't get me wrong, braille is a priority
but
>>>>>>>>> don't be like freedom scientific. adding more features and not
fixing your
>>>>>>>>> existing bugs!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mo.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24/05/2012 16:10, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> any other new features?
>>>>>>>>> we have been discussing a lot of issues with ma i believe over the
>>>>>>>>> last few months on list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 24 May 2012, at 16:02, Swati Sharma wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     [image: Logo Code Factory]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Braille support goes Android with MA*
>>>>>>>>>    Braille support goes Android with Mobile Accessibility, just in
>>>>>>>>> time for Sight City in Frankfurt Code Factory's Mobile
>>>>>>>>> Accessibility: first ever software application that allows the use
of a
>>>>>>>>> Braille display on Android!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, May 24th 2012
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After launching Mobile Accessibility in March 2011 and with more
>>>>>>>>> than 35.000 downloads worldwide, Code Factory has worked for
months to make
>>>>>>>>> Braille display usage possible with the product. Once more, we
have
>>>>>>>>> listened to our customers and turned their desires into reality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Based on the tremendous response from our customers, we have been
>>>>>>>>> more than motivated to keep improving this product and make the
impossible
>>>>>>>>> possible: add Braille support for the first time on this platform"
says
>>>>>>>>> Eduard Sanchez, CEO.  "Our ambition is to keep improving our
products and
>>>>>>>>> keep up with the constant OS updates and add new features that add
value to
>>>>>>>>> our products."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This free upgrade is available for all our customers, whether
>>>>>>>>> purchased in Google from one of our distributors, the free
download version
>>>>>>>>> of AT&T Mobile Accessibility Lite from AT&T, or Wireless
Accessibility from
>>>>>>>>> Sprint, Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile USA. It includes the
following
>>>>>>>>> Braille features:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *a.*    Use the power of a Braille display in the same way as on a
>>>>>>>>> computer and similar to what is available with Mobile Speak 4 and
above.
>>>>>>>>> *b.*    Enabling a solution for Deaf Blind users to be able to use
>>>>>>>>> Android devices for the first time.
>>>>>>>>> *c.*    Ability to use various grades, including grade 1 / 2 and
>>>>>>>>> computer Braille for both input and output.
>>>>>>>>> *d.*    Option to disable speech when Braille is turned on,
>>>>>>>>> allowing users to work in silent environments like meetings.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Devices of the following Braille device manufacturers are
>>>>>>>>> supported: Baum, Eurobraille, Freedom Scientific, Handytech, HIMS,
>>>>>>>>> Humanware and Optelec.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This free update is now available at:
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.codefactory.es/en/manuals.asp?id=89#family_ma<http://click.icptra
ck.com/icp/relay.php?r=2125636&msgid=122432&act=69J4&c=1030778&destination=h
ttps%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdeveloper%3Fid%3DCode%2BFactor
y>.
>>>>>>>>> For technical assistance, please submit a ticket through our Help
Desk at
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php
?r=2125636&msgid=122432&act=69J4&c=1030778&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.code
factory.cat%2Fhelpdesk%2F>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To learn more about Mobile Accessibility, visit the product
>>>>>>>>> information page at
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=415<http://click.icptrack.com/i
cp/relay.php?r=2125636&msgid=122432&act=69J4&c=1030778&destination=http%3A%2
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>>>>>>>>> You can also subscribe to the Mobile Accessibility mailing list at
>>>>>>>>>
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lay.php?r=2125636&msgid=122432&act=69J4&c=1030778&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fw
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>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   *For more information, feel free to contact Code Factory S.L.:*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Code Factory, S.L., C/ Major 19, 2-3, 08221 Terrassa (Barcelona)
>>>>>>>>>
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22432&act=69J4&c=1030778&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codefactory.cat%2Fhelp
desk%2F>
>>>>>>>>> Code Factory, S.L. - 2012
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Regards
>>>>>>>>> Support
>>>>>>>>> Submit Help Desk Ticket at
>>>>>>>>> http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/index.php?a=add
>>>>>>>>> Code Factory
>>>>>>>>> Making mobile phones and PDAs accessible to the blind and visually
>>>>>>>>> impaired.
>>>>>>>>> Moving Accessibility Forward!
>>>>>>>>> www.codefactory.es
>>>>>>>>> Follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/codefactory and on our
>>>>>>>>> blog at
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