most samsung phone's come with talkback, if they have not broke the
gester to turn on accessibility out of the box during set up then your
good to go to set up your phone.  so no need to by that over priced
glass "Iphone" if you do not want to mess with that bloted software
for windows known as "Itunes".

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> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:13:42 +0200
> From: ahmed salem <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] having the ma e mail work with multiple accounts,
>       and the frustration of a simple upgrade
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> The iphone is superior for me as a blind multilingual user. Not promoting
> it, but simply saying you should leave ma behind if you can.
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> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:02 AM, Sharif Jones <[email protected]>
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> Its a hell of a price to pay for an eye phone on those seeing how, u don't
> or are not un contracts.  But is talk back already installed in phones that
> have 4.0?  How much easier is it to use or is it still lacking.
> On Jul 30, 2012 11:26 PM, "Pedro Martinez" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> It’s really sad, and at this point pathetic, that code factory, has not
>> been able to make these very simple adjustments to the M.A. application.
>> Google, have made their O.S. accessible with the new Ice-cream sandwich,
>> and now jellybean, and code  factory is still yet to release the latest
>> upgraded of m.a. with the modifications that’s needed to make the android
>> o.s. more accessible.
>> I am tired and board waiting for their little simple upgrades that I am
>> seriously considering jumping the bandwagon, and start drinking that
>> apple
>> coo-lade.
>> Now that both virgin, and boost mobile companies are selling the IPhone
>> 4S, on their unlimited $55 plans.
>> Note: I am in no way, promoting the IPhone, but just voicing my opinion…
>> and frustration, on the lack of code factory’s ability to release their
>> little upgrade, with simple modifications.
>>
>> Because of C.F. inability to accommodate their customers, I will never
>> buy
>> anything from them again.
>> They just care to upgrade m.s. a speech program that not many people use
>> these days. Well at lease not here in the USA.
>>          So thank you code factory for losing my confidence in your
>> company.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Dusty Tague
>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:01 AM
>> To: Alphonso McFadden
>> Cc: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Subject: Re: [MA] having the ma e mail work with multiple accounts
>>
>> These things have been a year in the waiting.  I am not saying, next
>> month have them all fixed.  I Say, instead of one big byte, little
>> nibbles which are more manageable are what is required here.  Some of
>> the enhancements are simple and can be rolled out quickly, others will
>> take longer.  My point, it isn't something that can't be done and
>> something that should have been done.  If I can get a phone with Jelly
>> Bean, I see little need to buy a phone that runs on Gingerbread or ICS
>> and paying the $$$ for MA, even if still slightly cheaper to do so.  I
>> don't know about you, I don't have money to throw away and so when I
>> part with it, I want the best product I can afford.  Right now, it isn't
>> Mobile Accessibility.  Sure, for some I recommend it, but unless you are
>> lucky enough to get it for free, on the more modern phones with the most
>> up to date Android releases, there is not much that MA does better
>> anymore and often the benefits for using other third party applications
>> and stock apps when made accessible at times more then offset the
>> benefits of mobile accessibility.  For example, I prefer MA's GMail
>> reader to the stock one, despite not having the capabilities to move
>> emails to another folder.  Why, I can read my email and select links
>> easier in MA's version.  Extending IMAP to other email services and
>> adding POP3 support would make the email app superior to anything out
>> there that can only be matched if the stock email app in Jelly bean is
>> accessible.  I use the nightly firefox builds And if they can
>> distuingish between a file to be streamed, from one that needs to be
>> downloaded, maybe a plugin is needed, and the ability to navigate the
>> page and read it by chunks, it is the best browser out there. Since
>> google Chrome isn't available on my Gingerbread device, I can't
>> compare.  So if there is a better alternative, free or not, people will
>> flee to it.  Code Factory  needs to remember this as well, Even though
>> Carriers are sometimes subsidize MA, they won't continue to do so if
>> they don't have to and guess what, it is getting to the point where they
>> don't have to.  As a result, Code factory needs to make their product
>> something that people will continue clambering for.
>>
>> By the way, I have a degree in software engineering and write code, so I
>> am well aware of the difficulties.  I am also a customer and I don't
>> care, I don't want promises when I buy a product, I want it to work and
>> work as I expect it to.
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/2012 7:17 AM, Alphonso McFadden wrote:
>>
>>> It may not be as easy as we think.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty Tague" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Mobile Accessibility Android Users List"
>>> <[email protected]
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>>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MA] having the ma e mail work with multiple accounts
>>>
>>>
>>>  This, and other feature enhancements were called for from the
>>> beginning.
>>>> Only one request, adding braille support was implemented, and many
>>>> enhancements that should have been implemented simultaneously were not.
>>>> I
>>>> suppose, as a free option paid for by the cellular carriers, we should
>>>> be
>>>> grateful for what we have, but for those of us that shelled out the one
>>>> hundred dollars to purchase a half baked product, we expect to do
>>>> everything that the native apps do, nothing less.  We have less right
>>>> now
>>>> and have been basically told by code factory, we will determine what
>>>> you
>>>> really need.  It isn't thier job to tell us, but to respond to our
>>>> demands.
>>>>  Now let's see if we can get the enhancements we requested.  If they
>>>> rise
>>>> to the challenge, we should have had peridocal updates that add these
>>>> function enhancements we requested from this point forward.  It
>>>> shouldn't
>>>> take more than a month for each enhancement to be coded, tested, and
>>>> packaged for an update.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/27/2012 9:07 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>>>> has this been considered? i hope so it would make e mail on my phone
>>>>> much easier
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