to answer how to use talkback and MA, "use the MA homescreen to do
daily tasks and go to android settings under MA's app tray, settings,
accessibility and check talkback.  Note MA needs to be turned off as a
screenreader and let talkback do the screen reader task.  Also you can
have MA use the system voice so you do not have to have two voices
going at the same time.

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> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:20:35 -0400
> From: "Alphonso McFadden" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
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> How do you use both on that phone?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:50 AM
> Subject: RE: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
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>> The ultra didn't even get 2.3.6 until I want to say april of this year.
>> It
>> was stuck on 2.3.4 wich had a bad camera issue.  Actually, there is
>> plenty
>> of interest on that phone if you look into it on the forums.  The
>> interest
>> is there, it is just that I don't think they can figure out how to make a
>> custom rom for it.  In all seriousness, it should work. The specs on that
>> phone are good enough for ics, so I don't know why Samsung isn't even
>> bothering.
>>
>> As far as speech on gingerbread,  what I did was use talkback in
>> conjunction
>> with MA. So I had the best of both worlds.  I set MA to use my default
>> speech ingine, so that you didn't know when you were switching between
>> the
>> two, but me personally that is what I did.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dusty Tague
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:53 AM
>> To: [email protected]; Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>>
>> To answer your first question, the answer is most likely not.  They would
>> have done so by now if they were going to.  In fact, there is no custom
>> ROM
>> for it and that is generally a sign.  The presence of a custom Rom
>> doesn't
>> guaranty support, but the lack of one on an older handset, usually means
>> that there is not enough interest in the phone to warrant development.
>> In
>> that situation, the longer the handset is on the market without an
>> update,
>> the likelihood of an official upgrade diminishes.  I would venture to say
>> that, though I could be wrong, you have reached the limit of what will be
>> done in the future.  Assuming they will though, you can be assured at
>> this
>> point only ICS will be released, this means no Jelly Bean.  No
>> manufacture
>> skips a version of an operating system to go to the next.  Having said
>> that,
>> Talk back works better than MA but Ma offers enough features that it is
>> really a trade off and depends on the skin used whether Ma is better or
>> not.
>>
>>
>> On 9/10/2012 10:31 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I am running the samsung transform ultra on boost and it works great.
>>> Here's my question going forward.  Is android going to release ICS or
>>> Jelly Bean to this phone?
>>> If so what's the most reliable screen reader to use at this point?
>>> Has ma released a version that works under ICS or Jelly Bean, or are
>>> we gonna have to go with something like talkback?
>>>
>>> Thanks,Jed
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:48:01 -0400
> From: Sharif Jones <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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> Honestly, while I don't really know a lot about about that phone, I have
> seen that if u ever do get jelly bean, talkback is gona be your best bet.
> On Sep 11, 2012 9:28 AM, "Alphonso McFadden" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> How do you use both on that phone?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>; "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'" <
>> [email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:50 AM
>> Subject: RE: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>>
>>
>>  The ultra didn't even get 2.3.6 until I want to say april of this year.
>> It
>>> was stuck on 2.3.4 wich had a bad camera issue.  Actually, there is
>>> plenty
>>> of interest on that phone if you look into it on the forums.  The
>>> interest
>>> is there, it is just that I don't think they can figure out how to make
>>> a
>>> custom rom for it.  In all seriousness, it should work. The specs on
>>> that
>>> phone are good enough for ics, so I don't know why Samsung isn't even
>>> bothering.
>>>
>>> As far as speech on gingerbread,  what I did was use talkback in
>>> conjunction
>>> with MA. So I had the best of both worlds.  I set MA to use my default
>>> speech ingine, so that you didn't know when you were switching between
>>> the
>>> two, but me personally that is what I did.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
>>> ma_mailing-bounces@**codefactory.cat<[email protected]>
>>> [mailto:ma_mailing-bounces@**codefactory.cat<[email protected]>]
>>> On Behalf Of Dusty Tague
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:53 AM
>>> To: [email protected]; Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>>>
>>> To answer your first question, the answer is most likely not.  They
>>> would
>>> have done so by now if they were going to.  In fact, there is no custom
>>> ROM
>>> for it and that is generally a sign.  The presence of a custom Rom
>>> doesn't
>>> guaranty support, but the lack of one on an older handset, usually means
>>> that there is not enough interest in the phone to warrant development.
>>> In
>>> that situation, the longer the handset is on the market without an
>>> update,
>>> the likelihood of an official upgrade diminishes.  I would venture to
>>> say
>>> that, though I could be wrong, you have reached the limit of what will
>>> be
>>> done in the future.  Assuming they will though, you can be assured at
>>> this
>>> point only ICS will be released, this means no Jelly Bean.  No
>>> manufacture
>>> skips a version of an operating system to go to the next.  Having said
>>> that,
>>> Talk back works better than MA but Ma offers enough features that it is
>>> really a trade off and depends on the skin used whether Ma is better or
>>> not.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/10/2012 10:31 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> I am running the samsung transform ultra on boost and it works great.
>>>> Here's my question going forward.  Is android going to release ICS or
>>>> Jelly Bean to this phone?
>>>> If so what's the most reliable screen reader to use at this point?
>>>> Has ma released a version that works under ICS or Jelly Bean, or are
>>>> we gonna have to go with something like talkback?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,Jed
>>>>
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> how di i make talkback my default screen reader
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharif Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:48 PM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>
>
>
> Honestly, while I don't really know a lot about about that phone, I have
> seen that if u ever do get jelly bean, talkback is gona be your best bet.
>
> On Sep 11, 2012 9:28 AM, "Alphonso McFadden" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> How do you use both on that phone?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:50 AM
> Subject: RE: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>
>
>
>
> The ultra didn't even get 2.3.6 until I want to say april of this year. It
> was stuck on 2.3.4 wich had a bad camera issue.  Actually, there is plenty
> of interest on that phone if you look into it on the forums.  The interest
> is there, it is just that I don't think they can figure out how to make a
> custom rom for it.  In all seriousness, it should work. The specs on that
> phone are good enough for ics, so I don't know why Samsung isn't even
> bothering.
>
> As far as speech on gingerbread,  what I did was use talkback in
> conjunction
> with MA. So I had the best of both worlds.  I set MA to use my default
> speech ingine, so that you didn't know when you were switching between the
> two, but me personally that is what I did.
>
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:53 AM
> To: [email protected]; Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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> Subject: Re: [MA] Samsung transform ultra and updates
>
> To answer your first question, the answer is most likely not.  They would
> have done so by now if they were going to.  In fact, there is no custom ROM
> for it and that is generally a sign.  The presence of a custom Rom doesn't
> guaranty support, but the lack of one on an older handset, usually means
> that there is not enough interest in the phone to warrant development.  In
> that situation, the longer the handset is on the market without an update,
> the likelihood of an official upgrade diminishes.  I would venture to say
> that, though I could be wrong, you have reached the limit of what will be
> done in the future.  Assuming they will though, you can be assured at this
> point only ICS will be released, this means no Jelly Bean.  No manufacture
> skips a version of an operating system to go to the next.  Having said
> that,
> Talk back works better than MA but Ma offers enough features that it is
> really a trade off and depends on the skin used whether Ma is better or
> not.
>
>
> On 9/10/2012 10:31 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I am running the samsung transform ultra on boost and it works great.
> Here's my question going forward.  Is android going to release ICS or
> Jelly Bean to this phone?
> If so what's the most reliable screen reader to use at this point?
> Has ma released a version that works under ICS or Jelly Bean, or are
> we gonna have to go with something like talkback?
>
> Thanks,Jed
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