take MA and shove it up CF's back side.  Sorry when I see posts on
this mailing list about moble speak, which runs on a dead OS; it rubs
me the wrong way.

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> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:27:09 -0500
> From: Amanda Chokov <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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> Nick, totally 1000% agree with you! I don't even remember the last
> time ma had an update. I almost feel like we've been forgotten about.
>
>      Amanda
>
> On 11/26/12, Nick Zammarelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Good news to be sure for Mobile Speak users, but what about those of us
>> who
>> use Mobile Accessibility for Android? It’s time those of us without
>> Braille
>> displays got some more bang for our buck. Just athought.
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>> From: Swati Sharma
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:21 AM
>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Subject: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>> We are happy to announce the release of v5.81 of Mobile Speak Symbian. It
>> is
>> another free upgrade for users with a v4.0 or later license. This version
>> is
>> a patch release which supports new firmware versions that have recently
>> been
>> released on some devices (Belle Refresh and Belle Feature Pack 2). In
>> addition, some bug general bug fixes and improvements have been included
>> (including support for the latest version of WhatsApp), so all users are
>> encouraged to upgrade to v5.81. No TTS packages have been changed in this
>> release, so there's no need to upgrade your TTS version if you already
>> have
>> the latest one installed.
>>
>> If you currently have v5.80 installed, then you can go into Configure
>> Mobile
>> Speak > Options > Product downloads > Check for updates and follow the
>> instructions to install this release on top of your current version.
>> Please
>> remember to install to the same memory location where Mobile Speak is
>> currently installed. If you are prompted with something like "Unable to
>> install. Some applications must be closed first. Close now?", choose OK
>> and
>> the installation should proceed. After a few minutes, the installation
>> will
>> complete and Mobile Speak should be running (a restart of the device is
>> recommended as always). Alternatively, you can download v5.81 from our
>> web
>> page at http://codefactory.es/en/downloads.asp?id=348#version_0_106. The
>> direct link to the installer is
>> http://codefactory.es/download.asp?file=family_4/product_18/version_106/MobileSpeak_S60_v5.81.sisx.
>>
>> That user manual has been updated and can be found here:
>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html
>>
>> Here's a list of all the changes in this release:
>>   a.. Support for Symbian Belle Feature Pack 2 (FP2). This firmware has
>> recently been made available on the 603, 700, 701 and 808 devices.
>> Changes
>> include:
>>     a.. Support for Web Browser. Please check the web browser tips and
>> workarounds for Belle FP2 in the user manual here:
>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html#_Toc341688819
>>
>>     b.. Support for Email.
>>     c.. Support for Help pages.
>>     d.. Fixed problem on 700 and 603 devices where it was difficult to
>> unlock the lock screen. This can now be done on these devices by pressing
>> the Menu key or the Screen Lock key and then doing a swipe left or right
>> on
>> the screen.
>>     e.. Automatically closing half keyboard when it appears when entering
>> text, and fixing problem with entering text in Keypad mode. Note however
>> that the text input mode (e.g. alpha, number or predictive) may not be
>> spoken correctly due to a firmware bug, although it can still be changed
>> as
>> always by pressing the # key.
>>   b.. Support for Nokia Belle Refresh firmware (recently available as an
>> update on the N8, E6, E7, C7, C6-01, X7 and 500). This will fix the
>> problems
>> where the web browser and email were not working correctly on these
>> devices
>> after updating to Nokia Belle Refresh.
>>   c.. Updated to provide full support for the latest v2.8.22 of Whatsapp.
>>   d.. Web: Fixed problem where some buttons and images were not being
>> spoken
>> on some pages.
>>   e.. Nokia HQ: modified the change made in recent release which stopped
>> vibrations when Nokia HQ voice was selected. Now, the vibrations will
>> still
>> occur if the Nokia HQ voice is not speaking at the time the vibration is
>> meant to occur. However, if the voice is speaking, the vibration will not
>> occur since it would interrupt the speech.
>>   f.. Fixed problem where screen reader was using wrong language
>> resources
>> when a program was being used which does not support the current phone
>> language (e.g. Skype in some languages).
>>   a.. Braille: On Focus Blue devices, fixed stability and performance
>> with
>> rockers.
>>   b.. Braille: Added additional commands for EasyLink/BraillePen devices,
>> to
>> provide an alternative for devices without a joystick:
>>     a.. Enter: Space + dots15.
>>     b.. Dial: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots15.
>>     c.. Hang up: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots125.
>>   c.. Braille: Added missing commands for Humanware Brailliant devices
>> (BI32, BI40 and B80):
>>   d.. Braille: Fixed problem on some devices where Toggle Help Mode,
>> Toggle
>> Secret mode and Open User Dictionary commands were not working.
>>   e.. Latest translations.
>> We hope you enjoy this this latest release!
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:58:48 -0500
> From: "Jeff & Carla Wissel" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] upgrading phone
> To: "Mobile Accessibility Android Users List"
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> Hello,
>
> If I get an Android 2.2 or 2.3 will I be missing out on anything that a
> newer version would offer?
> Thanks
>
> From: Alicia Starner
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:25 PM
> To: 'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'
> Subject: RE: [MA] upgrading phone
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Miller
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:59 AM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] upgrading phone
>
>
>
> You won’t have to repurchase MA.  Although depending on what version of
> Android OS you get on the phone, you may not want to use it.  If you get
> Android 4.0 it really doesn’t help you.
>
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> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:48:01 -0700
> From: Dusty Tague <[email protected]>
> Subject: [MA] testing
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> Just testing.  I haven't been able to reply.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:55:11 -0700
> From: Dusty Tague <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] testing
> To: [email protected],      Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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> okay that worked.  So I will answer to points here.
>
> I agree that Mobile accessibility needs to upgrade MA, especially if
> they want people to keep using it as we shift to the more accessible ICS
> and Jelly Bean.
>
> To answer another question, While Froyo and gingerbread phones, Android
> 2.2 and 2.3 respectively are quite accessible if you have directional
> controls and a qwerty keyboard, the qwerty isn't necessary essential but
> the physical directional controls certainly are.
>
> Having said that, the accessibility on ICS or Jelly bean phones, ANdroid
> 4.0/4.1/4.2 is just so much better with touch to explore I wouldn't
> recommend less.  With the Nexus 4 for $299 and $349 respectively for the
> 8GB and 16GB models through Google play, AT&T and T-mobile users, or all
> gsm carriers, can enjoy the latest in accessibility for a very
> affordable price.
>
>
> On 11/26/2012 5:48 PM, Dusty Tague wrote:
>> Just testing.  I haven't been able to reply.
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:06:33 -0600
> From: "Virginia Robertson" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [MA] Help
> To: <[email protected]>
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> I have Motorola 4 Android with Verizon and am using MA.  I have System
> Notify and use volumes to answer calls both checked.  When I charge my
> phone
> at night,  I check it by turning it on after 3 hours.  MA says it's charged
> after 3 hours.  So, I turn all the way off and my Bluetooth too.  However,
> the next day when I power my phone up, it doesn't power up.  What is
> causing
> this.  I already had one replacement phone with the same issue.  Some store
> clerk might try to blame MA when checking about apps taking too much juice.
> What do I do?  I can't afford a brand new $400.00 phone and have only been
> a
> Verizon customer since August this year.
>
>
>
> Thanks for timely responses.
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