Hi Paul and thanks for letting me know abot this. i'm used to the ma homescreen so may start that way but when i first came to android from a nonaccessible phone of any kind, it was version 2.2 and i did well with the eyes free shell and talk back. the only reason i bought ma at all was for the web browser so now my carrier offers ma to its users so i'm thinking of doing that with talk back just to have them both since i just feel more comfortable that way if one crashes or just might read somethhing better than the other. i'm glad to hear about the onscreen keyboard usability since that's the one thing i've not been sure aboutt. what is the moto x? and do you know where it's sold here in the states?
Original message:
Hi
Just a couple of quick points. Having started with mobile speak on a few
different Nokias, I eventually took the plunge to Android. It's evolving
very quickly but I now own a nexus 4 phone and a nexus 7 tablet, both of
which are a joy to use. On the home screen question, MA is no longer  my
home screen, there are so many accessible apps outside of MA and it's
easier to use JB and explore your way to them than it is to use the MA
list of apps. I now use MA as an app because I@m used to its contacts
and messaging system. Even those aspects are accessible in JB but if you
aren't a heavy user then it's what you're used to and personal preference.
On the subject of keyboards, I had a couple of android phones with
physical keyboards and I found that my most used key was delete! It
isn't easy to touch type on such a small board. However with the latest
versions of JB the touch screen keyboards are very easy to use, you
slide your finger around until you find the right key and use that key
by lifting your finger rather than tapping. It does seem easy after a
while and I use delete much less.

Speech input is getting better too and the upcoming Android phones look
very good in this respect e.g. the moto x. Finally the designers seem to
have caught on that everyone wants to use phones without looking, not
just us.

Onwards and upwards, things are getting better for us all the time.

Good luck
Cheers
Paul


On 17/07/2013 05:00, tina birenbaum wrote:
ok good. it sounds like in some ways things haven't changed, just
gotten better. can you tell me also. how to explain to a sighted
person when you get to apps if the ma homescreen is what one uses, how
do you go from settings in there to accessibility? it sounds like
thats changed. i hear there are apps now under settings and more
options under the phone settings things that do sound different ,. i'm
trying to learn about jelly bean a little too and help my fiance who
has the jb phone and is very new to android but so far likes it.
Original message:
Making MA the home screen is similar in Jelly Bean to Gingerbread.
You clear the launcher defaults and the next time you press home
button, you have the choice of what you want to be your home screen.
From: Tina Birenbaum <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:14 PM
To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MA] for jelly bean users,upgrading from a previous
version like gigner bread
Is your phone touch screen only or does it have a keyboard too aa
hardware one?


Leslie Fairall <[email protected]> wrote:


Mobile Accessibility works well with the Samsung Galaxy Relay. I got
Jellybean in April. The only trouble I had was making Mobile
Accessibility
my home screen. I figured it out, but forgot how to do it.


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