Hi Travis,

When you set the start and stop times on the Options tab for any iTunes track, 
that limits the portion of the track to be used for any operation.  It's most 
notably used for playback, and I remember subscribing to some podcast that had 
annoying advertisements at the beginning of each track.  I simply set all of 
those podcasts to have start times about a minute into the track to avoid 
listening to the advertisements.  

However, using the start and stop times on the Options tab for any track you 
edit with Command-I to "Get Info", also sets the part of the track that will be 
used for conversions or burning.  So if you wanted to make a ringtone of an mp3 
track entirely with the native iTunes functions you could do it.  When 
listening to an mp3 file, I'd press space bar to pause the track about where I 
wanted to start.  Then I'd fine tune the time with the RestartAt AppleScript 
(again, using an assigned shortcut).  I'd make a similar selection for the stop 
time, and check it with the RestartAt AppleScript, making sure that the total 
length is less than 40 seconds.  Then I'd press Command-I, navigate to the 
Options Tab for the track, and enter those start and stop times, then close the 
window.  To convert that selection to an .m4a file I'd bring up the contextual 
menu (VO-Shift-M), and select "Create AAC version".   The .m4a file that is 
created will start and stop at the points I chose.  

Now, because I don't want to separately delete the .m4a version from the iTunes 
library (while not moving the file to the Trash), rename it with a .m4b 
extension, and then re-add it to iTunes so that it shows up as a Ringtone, I'd 
get Doug Adams' "Make Ringable" Applescript from his AppleScripts for iTunes 
website.  (Just Google "Make Ringable dougscripts" to find it.)  Since Doug 
Adams is a tidy AppleScripter, that script has the option to reset the start 
and stop times back to nominal when done: you simply select your mp3 track with 
start and stop times set, and apply the "Make Ringable" menu option from the 
AppleScripts menu.  The script makes a copy of the selected region of your mp3 
track specified by the start and stop times, creates an AAC copy of the section 
you're using for a ringtone, then renames it and adds it back to iTunes so that 
it shows up as a ringtone, and optionally resets the start and stop times back 
to the original values.

Incidentally, I forgot to emphasize that when you're done burning the Audible 
tracks you should remember to reset the start and stop times on the Options 
tab.  Either unchecking the boxes or just entering "0" into each field will 
work.

I had some early Audible audiobooks with short stories that I wanted to split 
off by story, so I used the start and stop times to create separate files I 
could play.

As for the ringtone creation, since I have Amadeus Pro, in practice I'd use 
that instead of the iTunes method, since it's already set up to let me easily 
listen to, mark, and shift the boundaries of selected areas of a track.  I'd 
select a track in iTunes, use Command-Shift-R to reveal its location in a 
Finder window then bring up a context window (Command-Shift-M) to open it with 
Amadeus Pro. After selecting the region I want,  I'd use the built-in "Export 
as Ringtone" menu option to make this show up as ringtone in iTunes. (No need 
for a "Make Ringable" AppleScript.)

HTH. Cheers,

Esther
 
On Jul 16, 2011, at 15:41, Travis Siegel wrote:

> Wow, I didn't even think of trying the start/end time tags with audible 
> books.  To be honest, I hadn't even thought it would be possible.  That's 
> another example of me just assuming itunes wouldn't allow it, so I never even 
> tried.
> Well, phewey.  Now I know what kinds of things to look for in the future.
> Thanks for that little tidbit, I'm sure I'll have use for it in the future.
> As always, an excellent post, thanks again.

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