Yes Nick that has been absolutely my experience, I'm glad to see you echoing 
it.  I've set the voice to the Australian one, I just can't determine if the HQ 
voice has downloaded.  When I put the "use compact voice" on, I do hear a 
difference in sound.  My point wasn't so much about using (or not) the irish 
voice, it was simply that surely I should have a say in whether it downloads or 
not?  I mean, it's my damn iPhone isn't it?  Maybe I want to keep the space 
taken up by the premium voice for something else?

Sighted users have choices in their visual displays in terms of themeing them 
with wall-papers etc.  Why shouldn't we as blind users have the same choices 
over the "visual theming"?  That last bit is an extract of a mail I sent to 
apple, which yet again has been ignored.

Dónal
On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:31, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Donál
> 
> While it will download the premium voice, simply go into 
> Settings>General>Accessibility>VoiceOver and toggle the "Use compact voice" 
> switch to on. If you mainly don't want the Irish voice at all, simply go into 
> Settings>General>International>Region Format and select the other format that 
> you wish to use, such as UNited States. If a voice is available for the 
> region you select depending on the language you have, it will switch to that 
> voice when selected and if plugged in and connected to Wi-Fi, the voice will 
> download. Unfortunately, you don't have much control over it from here on, 
> and you can't monitor its progress to ensure it's downloading. Apple is 
> supposed to have fixed it so that any voice you have switched to via the 
> language rotor regardless of default language is supposed to download, if the 
> compact switch is set to off, but I haven't seen this work at all yet. Also, 
> the default voice will continue to speak element types.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Chris don't follow you?
>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 22:14, chris hallsworth wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes and change the default voice in International Settings.
>>> 
>>> On 13/10/2011 21:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Ok so if I've got this right, as soon as I plug my i-device into an AC 
>>>> power outlet and assuming it's on a WIFI network, I'm going to get a 
>>>> premium voice.  As I may have mentioned before, the oirish one is possibly 
>>>> the worst example of concatenative speech synthesis I've come across in 
>>>> years.  So, bluntly, is there a way to prevent apple's nanny-state giving 
>>>> me a premium voice I don't want, and using up valuable band-width I don't 
>>>> want to waste.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Dónal
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