Hi Anne, I think you're talking about the default settings on the Advanced tab once you've selected "Edit SMTP Server List…" on the pop up button for the Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP). This is about step 3. in the second set of instructions new the end of my post, where navigation starts from the "Account Information" tab of the Accounts pane for Mail, rather than from the "Advanced Tab".
I think you are only able to navigate to the advanced tab radio buttons once you have highlighted a selection in the table of servers. You might try routing your mouse cursor to your VoiceOver cursor with VO-Command-F5, and clicking with VO-Shift-Space to select your server before you stop interacting with the table and navigate to the "Advanced" tab to press and select it with VO-Space. Other than that, your suggestion or removing and adding the account again should work, since you'll be taken through the setup dialog. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: > Thanks a bunch. It's that last, with default settings, that my son-in-law > can mouse to but I can't seem to navigate to with VoiceOver. I will try > removing and readding the account and see if it all magically becomes > accessible again. > > > At 02:08 PM 2/24/2012, you wrote: >> Hi Ann, >> >> Once you are on the preferences pane for mail and have selected your account >> in the table (steps 1-3 of previous instructions), stop interacting with >> the table and navigate with VO-Right arrow through the tabs for "Account >> Information", "Mailbox Behaviors", to the 3rd tab for "Advanced" and select >> it with VO-Space (step 4). >> >> 5. Continue to navigate with VO-Right arrow to the fields on the "Advanced >> tab". Navigate past the first set of options, which simply specify that the >> account is enabled and will be included when automatically checking for >> inbox messages, along with what content you want to keep for offline viewing >> (e.g. all messages with attachments, all messages but no attachments, only >> read messages, no messages). The section you want to edit begins with >> "Check with your system administrator before changing any of the advanced >> options below:" >> 5a. The first field is a text box for IMAP path Prefix. (This is blank for >> my setup). >> 5b. The next field is a text box for Port, followed by a checked checkbox >> for "Use SSL". This is where you want to change the port setting. >> >> My "Advanced" tab preferences pane may appear different from yours, because >> I am using MobileMe IMAP as my mail server. However, you should still be >> able to find a text box with the Port setting that you can change on the >> "Advanced" tab. The 995 value is used for POP mail configuration using SSL >> (secure sockets layer); I use 993 for the corresponding IMAP configuration >> with SSL for MobileMe, The "25" value for the Port setting does not support >> SSL (authentication). After the checked check box for "Use SSL", I have an >> entry for "Authentication" with a pop up button (aka as combo box) set to >> "Password". >> >> I think that the options to select ports were shown to you when you did the >> original mail setup on the "Account Information" tab (1 of 3) under the >> "Accounts" pane of your mail preferences. If you were to add a new mail >> account (e.g., by pressing (VO-Space) the "New account" button that is below >> the table of accounts, and that you can navigate to from the table with >> VO-Down arrow), the dialog window would take you through the steps of >> filling in the information that is on the "Account Information" tab (1 of >> 3), and the "Advanced tab" (3 of 3). >> >> At a guess, because I don't have a POP mail setup, after you switch to a >> secured port (995), you may have to supply an authentication method, usually >> a password for your outgoing mail server, if sending still does no work for >> you once you have completed the changes to port number and closed the >> preferences window (with Command-W in step 6). If you need to add this, you >> would do so from the "Account Information" tab of the "Accounts" pane of >> your mail preferences. Your preferences in mail should open (with >> Command-comma) at your last setting (e.g., with the "Accounts" pane and >> "Advanced" tab selected. The steps you would then take would be: >> >> 1. You would simply navigate with VO-Right arrow to the "Account >> Information" tab (1 of 3) and press it (VO-Space), then continue to navigate >> to the pop up button for the "Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP)". >> 2. Press the pop up button for the outgoing mail server (VO-Space), then >> arrow down to the menu option for "Edit SMTP Server List…" and press return. >> 3. A dialog window with a table of "Servers" will appear, that will allow >> you to select your server and check that the server being used has the >> password field completed. Again, when you stop interacting with the table >> after selecting a server, there will be tabs for "Account Information" and >> "Advanced" that you can select and press (VO-Space). The "Advanced" tab >> should have information about the ports, etc. There will be buttons for >> "OK" and "Cancel" that will return you to the "Account Information" tab of >> your Mail Preferences "Account" pane. >> >> If my last set of comments after the information on how to find the text box >> to set the port on the "Advanced" tab don't appear relevant, please just >> ignore them. They're supplied in case you need to take further actions, and >> are just guesses about what you might need to do. I think you can also make >> adjustments to the port settings and password entries by starting from the >> "Account Information" tab and selecting your Outgoing Mail Server from the >> pop up menu, then choosing to "Edit SMTP Server List…" (the second set of >> instructions that start with "1"), but the detailed instructions would >> depend on your specific server configuration. Again, you'd end up selecting >> the "Advanced" tab to make your changes to port number. There is an option >> with radio buttons to select either using the default ports (25, 465, or >> 587) or to use a custom port (and fill in the number in the text box). >> >> This is the sort of material that I never remember, and that the "Take >> Control" guide series supplies so well. So I really hope that they have an >> update to the volume on Apple Mail in Snow Leopard for Lion. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 24, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: >> >> > Hi, Esther, >> > >> > I'm still fighting the mail battle with my newly acquired Mac mini. In >> > your post below, I can get through step 4, but in step 5 can't figure out >> > how to navigate to the settings of port and so on. It's user ignorance, >> > of course. Can you rescue me??? >> > >> > Thanks for all the help. >> > >> > Ann >> > At 08:02 PM 2/19/2012, you wrote: >> >> Hello Anne, >> >> >> >> I'm not sure how your mail port settings should be configured, but you >> >> can get to this information through your Mail preferences settings. >> >> >> >> 1. From Mail, type Command-Comma to bring up your preferences menu >> >> 2. Navigate to the "Accounts" button on your title bar and press it. A >> >> quick way to do this is to use Control-F5 to move to the toolbar then tab >> >> to the "Accounts" button and press with VO-Space, then tab past the last >> >> button to where you here "Accounts, table" >> >> 3. Interact with the table to select the account you want to work with >> >> then stop interacting with the table >> >> 4. Navigate (VO-RIght arrow) to the "Advanced" tab (3 of 3), and select >> >> it (VO-Space). These are the advanced settings for the account that you >> >> selected, whose basic information was specified on the "Account >> >> information" tab (1 of 3). >> >> 5. Navigate to the advanced options that include text boxes for items >> >> such as IMPA Path Prefix and Port number, and make any necessary changes. >> >> 6. Close the Preferences window with Command-W when done. >> >> >> >> One of the very useful guides in the "Take Control" series of ebooks put >> >> out by TidBITS is the one dealing with Apple Mail. The last available >> >> version is "Take Control of Apple in Snow Leopard" and there is not yet >> >> an update for Lion. I'd wait for the new version to appear, then take >> >> advantage of the special 80 per cent discount that members of this list >> >> have for purchasing the Take Control guides. To read more about this, >> >> check the "Breaking News!" link at the main mac-access.net web page: >> >> http://www.mac-access.net/ >> >> These guides have all sorts of information that I haven't found as easily >> >> in other places. At typical prices to list members of $2 to $3 per >> >> guide, and with permanent access to the latest revisions and updates for >> >> download in PDF, ePub, etc. formats, I think these are well worth if if >> >> you need more extensive information on one of these subjects than you can >> >> get from questions on the list. >> >> >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> >> >> Esther >> >> >> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Ann Byrne wrote: >> >> >> >> > On my new/used Mac mini, I can receive mail, but can't send it. I >> >> > think the problem is with the ports. In mail, under accounts, >> >> > advanced, I can't find the place to change the port settings. I found >> >> > it once, and it said 25, 465, 5, 7, radio button, 1 of 2. the second >> >> > was a custom, and I guess that's what I needed, because instead of 25 >> >> > it should be 995. But I wanted to double check. And I have *never, >> >> > not once, been able to get back to that dialog. >> >> > >> >> > Can someone tell me please how to get there??? Or am I barking up the >> >> > wrong mailbox? >> >> > >> >> > thanks much, >> >> > >> >> > Ann >> >> > >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. 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