Hi again Zak,

I've had some odd issues with Skim recently as well where the reading is 
stilted.  I'll try to simulate below:

"the En glish cap ital is gearing up for the 20 12 oly mpic party…" etc.

Most odd indeed.

Dónal
On 24 Jul 2012, at 00:14, Zachary Kline <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dónal,
> I, too, am a developer, and will report this. If nothing else it might 
> convince them to mark mine as a duplicate of yours, which will bring more 
> attention to yours, one hopes. In the mean time, there is a nice PDF reader 
> called Skim which is accessible and doesn't show any of these odd reading 
> issues. More over, there are other ways to read PDF files, such as opening 
> them in Nisus Writer Pro, which I've found does a superlative job with 
> converting them into something very much like a text edit document.
> Hope this helps,
> Zack.
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:11 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Zak,
>> 
>> Thanks for the confirmation.  I've reported this numerous times; in fact 
>> each time the OS is updated (and I'm a dev so I see the pre-release builds 
>> as well) I update the bug but alas tis ignored.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> Dónal
>> On 24 Jul 2012, at 00:06, Zachary Kline <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Dónal,
>>> I, too, experience this, and have no real insight as to what exactly the 
>>> problem is. It baffles me, as when I was using Snow Leopard Preview worked 
>>> quite handily. I've occasionally been able to get variations in the odd 
>>> output, but nothing consistent. I would report this to Apple, and urge them 
>>> to fix this odd behavior asap.
>>> Yours,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Evening all,
>>>> 
>>>> I've been playing with some new machines recently and I've come to the 
>>>> conclusion that preview is badly broken.
>>>> 
>>>> On every single mac (all running Lion) preview when used in conjunction 
>>>> with voiceover does not seem to function correctly.
>>>> 
>>>> I have my view set to single page, and either outline view or thumbnails.  
>>>> I open a PDF and attempt to read.  All seems well except that Voiceover 
>>>> does not read all text which is visible on-screen.  I have had my wife, 
>>>> who has normal eyesight and does not use assistive technology, read a page 
>>>> from the "about stacks" file or "about downloads" file which come as part 
>>>> of each new install.  In all cases, voiceover is missing the last chunk of 
>>>> text.
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried zooming in/out, resizing windows…. you name it but I can't 
>>>> figure out a way to solve this.  I'm presuming I'm not unique and others 
>>>> are experiencing this?  The reason I assume this is that I have tried 
>>>> Preview on a 27" iMac straight out of the box (and with no customisations) 
>>>> and an Air in exactly the same state.  Sorry, obviously I customise the 
>>>> preview "view" slightly to be the same in all cases.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts of others would be interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> Dónal
>>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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