Lynn, I did as you asked and reread Gordon's original email about this subject. Here it is for you to reread too: >>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> When people on list reply to others who ask for advice, assistance, >>>> whatever, would you please check your spelling and typo errors before >>>> posting. Replying to requests with badly typed messages as have appeared >>>> on list recently cause more confusion than anything else. Please take a >>>> little care rather than just sending nonsense which, effectively, is what >>>> you're doing when you make a mess of spelling. >>>>
Now I ask you Lynn-- where in this email does Gordon ask us to take care when typing URLs? I can't even find URL mention at all. Rather it seems to focus on misspelled words, typos, and nonsense messages. ? Linda On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Sandy > > You are correct, this had absolutely nothing whatever to do with general > spelling. Somebody has twisted it to suit their own ends. It was aimed at > those who are taking no care when presenting URLs in messages. We are very > well aware that some people have literacy skills which vary and others reside > in different parts of the world. Neither person should be in any way held to > account for their issues. > > Gordon raised one issue and one issue alone and that was invalid URLs. > > So would people please read what we actually say, and not what they think > we're saying. :) Also this is being blown out of all precautions by some > people. Again, possibly due to either misunderstanding or misinterpretation. > So let me clarify for the very last time. We are not blasting others for > their spelling; we are not blasting others for anything; we are not claiming > to be immune to errors. We are simply asking people to take more care with > the URLs they post. That's the beginning and end of the story. > > Lynne > > Lynne > > On 28 Jul 2011, at 12:11, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > > Hallo The List, > > I should begin by confessing myself a shameless list lurker! I borrowed a > MacBookPro, from college, last year and have since returned it. At the > moment, I am working solely with an iPhone 4, a couple of BT keyboards and a > BraillePen. So, no actual PC or Mac. I remain on this list to monitor the > progress of Vo accessibility and, also, in the hopes of Lion offering a more > "user friendly" GUI, as I found my brief flirtation with Snow Leopard to be > rather confusing and unpleasant. > > So much for my background here: I wish merely to explain why an, apparently, > silent, person should choose to contribute to this thread which is because I > am finding it to be both offensive and incorrect for the following two > reasons: > > 1. Mention of the spell checker has been vaunted here as the solution to > miswritten links or Program names. I took a look at Gordan's original post on > this topic and then Lyn's follow up posts and found that the issue in > question was one of potentially sending people off to wrong virtual > destinations or by wasting members time with misnamed apps etc. I would like > to point out that a spell checker will not help in either of these cases. A > spell checker cannot recognise correct names for apps or links. > > 2. I note that the list owners are proud and gratified by the increasingly > global membership of this list. This is announced whenever a new member joins > the list. However, if more and more people, for whom English is a second > language, are to be welcomed here, should we not also be generous and, > indeed, admiring of their attempts to contribute to our body of knowledge > while having, at the same time, to do this in a foreign tongue? I have been > studying Italian for some years now, but have to admit, my fluency in that > language is severely lacking, nevertheless, I do contribute as best I can, > when I feel I have something of worth to offer. My Italian virtual friends > are always wonderfully encouraging and take the time to make sure that the > substance of my contributions is fully understood. It is, then, the substance > of what I have to offer which is the important thing and not the style by > which I attempt it. > > Finally, as a teacher myself, I am passionate about literacy and am > personally convinced that the spell checker phenomenon, while being > incredibly useful at times, is also, singlehandedly, destroying our ability > to spell without the aid of a computer. So, speaking personally, I don't use > it, preferring merely to listen to my message and, if it sounds > understandable via a screen-reader, am quite happy to send it. > > Please stop mortifying list members here or, I am sure, the list will lose > people, such as myself, who are, normally, happy to read and learn. > > Sorry for taking up list time with something that really should never have > occupied us to begin with! > > Thanks, > > Sandy. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 27 Jul 2011, at 23:56, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That is a superbly written mail. I've discarded three drafts trying, and >> failing, to say something similar. >> On 27 Jul 2011, at 23:51, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Linda, >>> >>> If you don't want to read an email, and if you do not think the spelling >>> mistakes apply to you, you can always delete it. If the subject line isn't >>> very clear regarding the issue, read the first mail in the thread then >>> decide if you want to continue reading. If Lynne and Gordon have deemed it >>> necessary to send it out on the list, then you'll be clogging up the list >>> traffic by essentially attempting to extricate yourself from the issue. >>> >>> Since apparently, people have decided to make it into an argument, I'm >>> going to throw in my two cents. >>> >>> It's a simple advice, particularly if you use a Mac, to use the built-in >>> spellchecker. To use the spellchecker, a simple method is to use >>> Command-Semicolon which highlights a misspelled word and allows you to edit >>> or delete it. Using Command-Colon invokes a dialog which allows you to >>> correct your mistakes via a table which displays possible suggestions. If >>> you are running Mac OS X 10.7, Lion, and have typing echo turned on, such >>> as having it set to either words or characters, you will hear a bubble >>> sound which indicates a popup bubble. If you wish to display the >>> information of the bubble, hit down arrow. VoiceOver will announce how many >>> suggestions are available, as well as spell them for you as you move >>> through them with left and right arrow keys. To select a suggestion, hit >>> return. >>> >>> I honestly have no idea why people seem to be getting so incredibly >>> offended over this. Lynne and Gordon aren't accusing you specifically, but >>> simply sending a gentle reminder to everyone to please use a spellchecker. >>> Everyone can make mistakes, whether you type too fast or you just can't >>> spell a particular word, and I'm sure that some of us are guilty of >>> forgetting the spellchecker even exists. I'll be the first one to admit >>> that I sometimes forget it is there, mainly because I'm confident in my >>> typing skills. But that doesn't mean this email doesn't apply to me, even >>> if my mistakes are minor or very rare. I think that is the point Gordon and >>> Lynne are trying to impart. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Linda Mumford wrote: >>> >>>> My two cents about this email is that it was inappropriate to send it to >>>> everyone on the list because: >>>> 1. By sending this email to everyone on the list it comes across as if >>>> you are berating (yes, berating) us for mistakes I suspect only a few >>>> have made . >>>> 2. . If a email is so badly typed that most of the words are nonsense, >>>> why not save yourself a lot of frustration and the rest of us the >>>> inconvenience of redding emails that don't apply to us by sending this >>>> email OFF LIST to whoever it actually applies to. Speaking for myself, I >>>> certainly would not be offended if I had sent a unreadable email out and >>>> you pointed it out to me off list. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Linda Mumford >>>> On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:17 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all >>>>> >>>>> When people on list reply to others who ask for advice, assistance, >>>>> whatever, would you please check your spelling and typo errors before >>>>> posting. Replying to requests with badly typed messages as have appeared >>>>> on list recently cause more confusion than anything else. 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