Hi Colin,
I suspect it is definitely a snowy vs. Lion thing. I have been running Lion 
since it came out, haven't touched Snowy in quite a long time.
Best,
Zack.
On Oct 2, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Zack!
> This could be a snowy kitty Vs Lion thing!
> So in snowy kitty I get hide visuals with vo+f11!
> Please Zack tell me your using Lion!
> Because if your not then I do not know what's happening and that command is 
> the one listed in my vo+h+h list!
> Oh well happy days!
> And you have a good one!
> Colin
> 
> On 2 Oct 2011, at 23:35, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I beg to differ. I just tested on Lion, and vo-f11 does not hide visuals. 
>> vo-cmd-f11 does, as I said previously.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> It is just vo+f11 to hide visuals and what that does is hide the vo cursor 
>>> and panel from sighted people!
>>> And just in case some of you who use some vision!
>>> vo+f10 will tile the vo cursor so it is the only visible thing on the 
>>> screen!
>>> and the rest will be darkened [ some low vision people might like it! ]
>>> hth Colin!
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2011, at 22:59, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ah thanks for reminding me of that one. I don't know what the hide visuals 
>>>> does as I don't use it.
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi LEwis and all,
>>>>> There is actually another command for the screen curtain. It's 
>>>>> vo-shift-f11. Hide visuals is vo-cmd-f11, not just vo-f11 on its own.
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>> Zack.
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Lewis Crack wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jonathan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, there is the "Hide visuals". You activate this by pressing VO plus 
>>>>>> F11. 
>>>>>> This seems to be available in Snow Leopard, but not in Lion.
>>>>>> there may be another command, but not sure.
>>>>>> If you have a trackpad, which MacBook Pros do, you can use the same 
>>>>>> gesture as the iPhone.
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>> Lewis.
>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2011, at 21:44, Jonathan Tyrer wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i recently got an iMac and am wondering if there is anything like iOS
>>>>>>> feature screen curtains?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JT
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