Hi,

Last time I checked, that was about the right price. Extortionate, yes, but 
blame all our taxes that we have when we buy a product.

It may not be the same for you, though. In fact, it's probably not. I always 
get surprised every time I see a cheap product elsewhere which breaks a bank 
where I live.

It'll include the iPhone 4S, too, I'm sure. Regardless I'll be looking forward 
to getting it.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 6, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> so about 900€?  That's extortionate!
> On 6 Oct 2011, at 11:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dónal
>> 
>> It's probably going to run me close to $1200 over here, but buyinng from 
>> Germany I may be able to cut it down significantly. That's just for the 16GB 
>> model.
>> 
>> I may very well go with the same storage as my 3GS.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> 
>>> Nick,
>>> 
>>> You getting yours sim-free?  Any idea how much?
>>> 
>>> Regarding your other points, I agree 100%.
>>> 
>>> Dónal
>>> On 6 Oct 2011, at 10:19, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> 
>>>> !From what I remember from having an Apple headset with remote, holding 
>>>> down the play/pause button would  trigger Voice Control. That 
>>>> functionality isn't going to be stripped out, so when that voice assistant 
>>>> launches, you can use it for the very same.
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, iOS 5 probably isn't going to run horribly fast on the 3GS, 
>>>> compared to the iPhone 4. For those running the 3GS, the 4S is definitely 
>>>> worth upgrading to because of the faster speed. If you already have the 
>>>> iPhone 4, while the 4S is supposedly twice as fast it'd probably still run 
>>>> fine, and if you don't need the camera or Siri then you might as well 
>>>> stick with what you have.
>>>> 
>>>> Battery life hasn't been made worse because of the extra power, but 
>>>> reportedly better according to the event. More power doesn't necessarily 
>>>> equal sacrificing battery life whatsoever. While Apple can sometimes be a 
>>>> bit generous with their statistics, it's not entirely untrue that you can 
>>>> optimize battery life and pack more processing power into a device with 
>>>> reasonably good results if the chip itself is capable of reducing battery 
>>>> consumption.
>>>> 
>>>> In any case, I'll be getting mine from Germany. Everything is hugely 
>>>> expensive here because of various tax rates as opposed to Germany, and 
>>>> Germany is getting it on the 14th. The huge benefit to the touchscreen 
>>>> devices is that, since the keyboard is intelligent, changing the keyboard 
>>>> layout gives you the keys that you need so you can potentially buy the 
>>>> phone from any country.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nic
>>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:33 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi what do people here think then of the iPhone 4s? anyone going to 
>>>>> upgrade from the 4 if they have one?
>>>>> to only get voice recognition a faster supposedly processor which will 
>>>>> make battery life worse in my view these benchmarks are nothing to go buy 
>>>>> and an eight mp camera when we have no OCR for it isn't worth it.
>>>>> THe fact that the rest of IOS five can run well on a 3gs, or a 4, is 
>>>>> testament to it but i would like siri on my phone why should i spend more 
>>>>> money just to ge that?
>>>>> all apple want is money I going to go i think with android next year
>>>>> my upgrade is due next year not this. 
>>>>> if we can though use the apple remote and mike headphones to press a 
>>>>> button and say, text lyn to say i am running late as we on the road 
>>>>> that's great but if have to stop, take phone out pocket hold down a 
>>>>> button and speak then put phone away and continue on route it is silly 
>>>>> but i do want a faster way to type as texting take forever in my view on 
>>>>> an ios device, but what are peoples thoughts?
>>>>> maybe i am missing reasons to upgrade but the price is too high apple 
>>>>> need to live in the real world we are in hard times, who wants to spend 
>>>>> money on a phone that hardly offers anything new?
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