I think it does download NIck. Can't prove it of course :) On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:45, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi Donál > > I absolutely agree with you. It also seems that the voices download > regardless of VoiceOver. My twin's iPhone suddenly spoke with a higher > quality voice when I turned on VoiceOver when I helped him last night, and > that voice was not available when I used it before, nor was it plugged in > when I did so. > > You may already have the voice. It should be pretty easy to determine, since > the premium Karen first of all is unable to pronounce her own name, so that's > one way to find out. I do think, though, that you should be able to monitor > the actual download of the voice as well. I don't always want them to > download, since i'm multilingual in four languages if you don't count Dutch. > I haven't determined if switching on the compact setting turns it off > entirely, but I'd imagine that isn't the case since sighted users seem to get > these too. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Yes Nick that has been absolutely my experience, I'm glad to see you echoing >> it. I've set the voice to the Australian one, I just can't determine if the >> HQ voice has downloaded. When I put the "use compact voice" on, I do hear a >> difference in sound. My point wasn't so much about using (or not) the irish >> voice, it was simply that surely I should have a say in whether it downloads >> or not? I mean, it's my damn iPhone isn't it? Maybe I want to keep the >> space taken up by the premium voice for something else? >> >> Sighted users have choices in their visual displays in terms of themeing >> them with wall-papers etc. Why shouldn't we as blind users have the same >> choices over the "visual theming"? That last bit is an extract of a mail I >> sent to apple, which yet again has been ignored. >> >> Dónal >> On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:31, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Donál >>> >>> While it will download the premium voice, simply go into >>> Settings>General>Accessibility>VoiceOver and toggle the "Use compact voice" >>> switch to on. If you mainly don't want the Irish voice at all, simply go >>> into Settings>General>International>Region Format and select the other >>> format that you wish to use, such as UNited States. If a voice is available >>> for the region you select depending on the language you have, it will >>> switch to that voice when selected and if plugged in and connected to >>> Wi-Fi, the voice will download. Unfortunately, you don't have much control >>> over it from here on, and you can't monitor its progress to ensure it's >>> downloading. Apple is supposed to have fixed it so that any voice you have >>> switched to via the language rotor regardless of default language is >>> supposed to download, if the compact switch is set to off, but I haven't >>> seen this work at all yet. Also, the default voice will continue to speak >>> element types. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry Chris don't follow you? >>>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 22:14, chris hallsworth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes and change the default voice in International Settings. >>>>> >>>>> On 13/10/2011 21:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok so if I've got this right, as soon as I plug my i-device into an AC >>>>>> power outlet and assuming it's on a WIFI network, I'm going to get a >>>>>> premium voice. As I may have mentioned before, the oirish one is >>>>>> possibly the worst example of concatenative speech synthesis I've come >>>>>> across in years. So, bluntly, is there a way to prevent apple's >>>>>> nanny-state giving me a premium voice I don't want, and using up >>>>>> valuable band-width I don't want to waste. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dónal >>>>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>> >>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>> forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>>> virus and worm-free! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >>>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! 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