Hi Esther, This is a fabulous explanation! Thank you so very much for taking the time! I will definitely keep this message and refer to it often! Again, thanks!
I don't know why, but I always seem to forget about that wonderful context menu! Maybe it will finally be drummed into my head that it's there! Desi On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Desi, > > Folders that are placed into the Dock by default are set up to work with > Stacks, I believe. What you want to do is navigate to the folder in your > dock, and bring up the contextual menu with VO-Shift-M. If you use VO-Down > arrow to move through the options, you'll find categories for "Sort by", > "Display as", and "View content as". These are headings for the categories, > and will be announced as "dimmed". The arguments you can check under "Sort > by" are: "Name", "Date Added", "Date Modified", "Date Created", and "Kind", > with "Name" checked as the default. It's the options in the "Display as" and > "View content as" categories that you'll want to change. I set "Display as" > to "Folder" instead of "Stack", and I set "View content as" to "List". I > don't remember what the default setting of "View content as" is -- it may be > "Automatic" or "Fan", but when the contents come up and are not in "List" > mode VoiceOver doesn't announce them. > > You need to bring the context menu up for each item you want to change. So > if you want to view your contents as "List", navigate to the folder, use > VO-Shift-M, and VO-Down arrow to "List" then press return. Then if you want > to display as "Folder", use VO-Shift-M again, arrow down to "Folder" and > press return. You can use either the up and down arrow keys alone, or in > combination with the VoiceOver Control and Option keys to navigate these > menus. The difference is that you won't hear the category headings of "Sort > by", "Display as", or "View content as" announced if you use the arrow keys > alone without the VO keys. For anything you do apart from this initial > setup, using just the arrow keys by themselves will give you all the > information. > > Once you have set up the folder to be displayed as a folder and viewed as a > list, you can just navigate to the folder and either press space bar or > VO-Space to display the list of contents. VoiceOver will announce the > entries as you arrow up and down the list. Access subfolders with your right > arrow key, then move through files in your subfolder with the up and down > arrow keys. Return to the parent folder by using the left arrow key. You > can also move to the bottom of the list with Command+Down arrow or to the top > of the list with Command+Up arrow. (This seems to move to the top or bottom > of the visible list, so if your list is really long, continue to arrow up or > down and then press Command+Up or Down arrow again.) The very end of the > menu options will be an "Options" menu (where you can reset the view options > we described above) and an "Open in Finder" option. This is handy if you > want to do an actual copy and paste, or a move of the file in Finder. > > In addition, there's a rather neat trick if you want to move some of your > iTunes folders like for Podcasts to the dock, because you can quickly > navigate through the menus and start a podcast playing in iTunes from there! > > Also, I've found that in the dock you can use Fn+Down Arrow to cycle between > the Applications section, the Folders section, and the Trash. Fn+Up Arrow > also works in the reverse direction. So this is a quick way to move to the > documents section of the dock after you issue your VO-D or Control-F3 command > to move to the dock. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 08:52, Desi Noller wrote: > >> Hi Everybody, >> >> I'm still using SnowLeopard, and I have put some documents in my documents >> folder, but VO doesn't seem to be letting me get to them from the Dock. I >> can VO-right-Arrow to the documents folder, but when I press VO space to >> open the folder, VoiceOver says nothing. My sighted husband can see the >> documents in the folder, but they are not apparent to me at all! I just >> keep getting the prompt, "To open the folder, press VO plus space." I have >> also experienced the same issue with the Applications folder on the dock. >> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 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