Hi Lynne,

Firstly, you wrote in part:

LS>have not the slightest interest in doing so.
LS>Not for discussion here; this is an Apple related group. <LS

A modicum of clarification might be in order?  If memory serves, a couple weeks 
ago you announced your intention not to create a separate list for discussion 
of IOS issues, hence such topics would remain appropriate for this list.  I did 
not write privately to express my support for your decision as it was a done 
deal at the time of my perusal of the thread.

 indisputably, iCloud is now an integral part of IOS.  More over, Apple 
explicitly supports the Windows platform as indicated by their release of the 
iCloud control panel and ITunes for Windows.  It would therefore seem topical 
for someone who might not have the cash for a Mac (especially after buying an 
iPhone) to seek assistance with accessibility issues they may be experiencing 
when attempting to configure important IOS features such as "find my iPhone".  
If this is incorrect, perhaps you might reconsider your original decision?  
Personally I believe this would be an unfortunate development because it would 
be another list to follow, and many would no doubt continue posting their 
questions regarding IOS products here.

  I'm sorry if it was not sufficiently clear that my purpose for mentioning all 
browsers and platforms was to illustrate that I tried everything before posting 
my question.  Working off Esther's post I am now able to remotely make my phone 
emit a noise and display a message using either MacOS or Mozilla Firefox.  The 
key seemed to be going to icloud.com/find.  The steps varied slightly from 
Esther's instructions, but her post contained more than enough information to 
get me started on the right path.  I would post my Mozilla steps, but -- gasp 
-- would need to mention a Windows product, so I suppose anyone interested can 
write me privately.

  Secondly, you wrote:
  LS>
  Using Safari 5.1.1 I am able to navigate this using VoiceOver without 
difficulty. There are some unlabelled buttons at the top left of the page but 
the same buttons exist further down the page and they are labeled.
  <LS

  Okay, lets compare Apples to Apples and see whether I'm in the twilight zone 
two weeks early for Halloween, or the iCloud site has accessibility issues.

  Using Lion 10.7.2 and Safari 5.1.1 I opened URL: http://www.icloud.com/find 
and filled in my credentials.  Next I used the item chooser and pressed enter 
on the second instance of my iPhone.  Next to that is an unlabeled button which 
I activated by pressing control-option-spaceBar. I then pressed vo-rightArrow a 
couple times and activated the "remote lock" button by pressing vo-spaceBar.  
In the resulting dialog, I am unable to locate the edit field to enter a 
passcode.  I tried physically clicking the trackpad over the "info" button and 
passcode prompt.  At one point I saw a prompt to reenter my passcode, but the 
lock button always remains dimmed.

  Thanks in advance to anyone who feels inclined to test in their environment.

  Best regards.
  Geoff


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith 
  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
  Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: iCloud versus MobileMe Web interface = Same old same old?


  Hello Geoff

  Firstly, I have not tested this under Windows and have not the slightest 
interest in doing so. Not for discussion here; this is an Apple related group.

  Using Safari 5.1.1 I am able to navigate this using VoiceOver without 
difficulty. There are some unlabelled buttons at the top left of the page but 
the same buttons exist further down the page and they are labelled.

  If you would like me to test under another OS with you, by all means take 
this off list and get back to me. I will then gladly assist in any way I can. I 
don't dispute what you're saying; please don't think that. I just want to find 
out why things are so very different for you.

  Lynne

  On 16 Oct 2011, at 02:06, Geoff Waaler wrote:

  Hi Lynne,

  Like Bryan, I am getting absolutely nowhere attempting to use the iCloud 
site.  I've tried the latest webkit running under Lion 10.7.2 and all the 
latest available WinXP browsers (IE8, Mozilla7, and GoogleChrome14).  In all 
instances my experience is pretty much as Bryan describes.  I can not set the 
region to anything other than the default of US Pacific time.  As you 
mentioned, the buttons are labeled, but I've not yet ascertained how to 
activate them.

  My first objective was to use the "find my IPhone" feature to make my new 4S 
emit a sound in the event that my golden ever decides to hide it.  On the Mac 
side I navigated to the "find my iPhone" button, disabled trackpad commander, 
routed the mouse and verified that it was over the button and clicked the 
trackpad.  This essentially killed voiceOver as it presumably could not deal 
with the resulting map??  When I finally got back to iCloud the page had not 
changed.  It appears to show my iPhone, but there is no way to cause it to emit 
noise.

  I also tried everything including simulated mouse clicks on the windows side, 
but no joy so far.  Google didn't appear to hold any easily findable solutions 
either.

  I hope I'm missing something, and perhaps you or someone can take a few 
moments to describe how to navigate the iCloud site via voiceOver?

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