I have to agree with Esther and others in this thread. It's possible you've already solved your problem, and just don't realize it. On the other hand, Esther's post on how to get the file to go away permanently is quite thorough, and should work if all is setup as advertised on your system. Of course, there's always the possibility that none of these things worked, and we'll need to hunt down other volumes with trash folders on them, and eliminate them as well. I've noticed the trash seems to sometimes drop files in trash folders I'd not expect them to go into, but this just could be me, since I tend to use terminal heavily, and also tend to forget where I put things, so it could just be me remembering the wrong info for a recently deleted file. But, the main thing here is that if terminal simply returns you to your command-line with no acknowledgement that what you typed was acted on or not, then it's safe to assume it performed the operation in question and is simply waiting for the next instruction. However, I strongly caution against using pseudo as a command modifier, unless you are told specifically that files can't be removed when you run the command as yourself, especially if you're new to terminal and how it works. It's possible (though extremely unlikely) to wipe out your entire hard drive using the pseudo command, so it's definitely one to be careful with. I'm not saying it shouldn't be used, only to use it with care, and be sure you are where you think you are before trying the command. In fact, I'd suggest adding one additional command to Esther's list, before you type the rm-f command, the second command should be cd .trashes (that's the word trashes preceded by a period) before typing the rm - f command. That way, if you're already in the .trashes folder, you can't erase things outside of that folder. The only problem with that though is that if you're not truly in the .trashes folder, you truly will hose your machine. A good rule of thumb is check your location twice before typing any command that erases files such as the rm command. Now, I'll freely admit I rarely do this myself, and it has caused me grief in the past, but when performing something as drastic as a remove all files in a folder, I do tend to check at least once, and usually twice to make sure I'm where I should be. I broke someone's account several years ago when I performed an rm -f * on what I thought was a folder under someone's home folder, but turned out to be their actual home folder, and since they had been running a mud, needless to say, they were not happy with me about that. I don't think I need to go into detail about what happened next. Suffice it to say, they weren't a client much longer. So, I'll simply leave it at that, and know that although terminal is powerful, it's also very dangerous, and should be handled with care, at least when it comes to the rm command. Other than rm, there are very few unix commands that will do irrepairable damage to your machine, so it's perfectly safe to experiment. As long as you're a regular user with no special previleges, you can't break anything critical, the system won't let you. This is another reason I strongly recomend having an admin account on your machine for fixing things, and a regular user nonadmin account that you use on a daily basis. That way, you can't possibly perform functions that will put your machine into a nonrepairable state without a bit of work. But, again, with all that said, really, the terminal isn't a bad thing, and you might be surprised at how versatile it can be, and just how much you can accomplish using it. You might want to take advantage of the take control offer, and grab a copy of their take control of terminal book. That will get you started on using terminal, and take a lot of the fear out of it as well. There's some things not covered in that book such as programming your function keys, terminal emulation, and serious amounts of command stringing, though they do touch on it a bit. But, those are things you likely won't use in your first forays into terminal anyhow, so if terminal truly is something you want to learn (and everyone should want to learn it) then, by all means, pick up the book. Joe really does a good job of explaining things in a straightforward manner. I did send a comment mentioning the few things I thought could be added, but got no response, so don't know if they were received or not. But regardless, It's a good reference to have, even if you only drop into terminal once or twice in your whole osx career, as it will explain a lot that may not make sense to you at the moment.

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