Wello great - but how do you do it without feedback? 
David Griffith
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On 30 Nov 2011, at 13:07, Mike Maslo wrote:

> I have absolutely no problems entering passwords in either my iPhone or Mac 
> and feel no improvement is needed.
> 
> I do on line banking with no problem
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:34 AM, David Griffith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I am sad to say that I absolutely agree. Apple needs to concentrate on these 
>> everyday issues  as a matter of urgency.
>> 
>> I am afraid that, even now, I have to go back to Windows and Jaws for 
>> anything involving secure web pages. Even if pages load I have dreadful 
>> problems with passwords. The biggest feature request I would have for 
>> Voiceover would be to provide consistent click feedback when entering  text 
>> into secure edit boxes I have tried to access Nat West a few times using the 
>> Mac and Safari and have given up each time as the complete lack of feedback 
>> when entering password information is too confusing and unnerving.  oxes. 
>> Voiceover and Safari hardly ever achieve proper feedback on secure edit 
>> fields. . So in the last 2 days I tried to access GMail and the Sainsburys 
>> site. On theGMail   login I received only sporadic click feedback  confusing 
>> me as to whether key presses had been registered aor not. On the sainsbury 
>> site I received no feedback at all. In fact one of the few  places  I know 
>> where I have received anything like consistent click feedback in a password 
>> field is the App Store
 .
>  E
>> ven here the first key press is silent . presumably because the first letter 
>> of my password is capitalised.  This is one of my biggest disappointments 
>> with the Mac.
>> As you know password automaters  will not work with the Nat West site as you 
>> need to enter randomly selected characters from password and pin, as you do 
>> with payment verification systems on shopping sites. Ebay is usable as 
>> having a paypal account and simple login makes it far easier.  
>> I  am not asking for any security breaches, just for voiceover to do its job 
>> of providing a click every time you type in an edit field. The equivalent of 
>> the sighted user seeing a star. We are being badly let down here. Both NVDA 
>> and Jaws have no problem with providing feedback in these same edit boxes so 
>> I am mystified as to why this is a problem for Voiceover.
>> This and the apparent inability of mac wordprocessin  software to handle a 
>> table in a word documents are big drawbacks. As an academic I am constantly 
>> confronted with documents with tables in. Lots of good things about the Mac 
>> but these are big problems of everyday usage which need to be sorted 
>> urgently.
>> 
>> David Griffith
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Nov 2011, at 07:25, william lomas wrote:
>> 
>>>   hi all my online banking is still not working under mac osx lion.
>>> All I still get is voiceover saying safari or lighting busy when i log in. 
>>> if i can't use the mac to do every day tasks like this then what's the 
>>> point?
>>> the 
>>> www.natwest.com
>>> bank i am with in the UK doesn't as far as I know have any flash. rather 
>>> than adding all these fancy new features like spaces and other things we 
>>> can't even use right apple need to address such basic issues as these, all 
>>> these claims of fastest web browser and stability are no good for blind 
>>> consumers
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