eloquence is no where as clear a alex. I can't believe someone may think that. Eloquence to me is so computer sounding and unreal. On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> Indeed Chris, for the most part I find Alex nice to listen to but now and > then I get a word that he doesn't pronounce promptly. Where as eloquence just > seems more natural sounding in saying words correctly. > Chris I am curious since you have and I device which voice do you use for it. > See when I got one a couple of years ago I simply didn't understand and still > possibly won't the nuance english voices which frustrates me because I really > want to use an I device but can't because of this voice problem. > > Daniel > On 15 Jan 2012, at 17:15, chris hallsworth wrote: > >> Interesting Daniel, I am hearing impaired as well and it appears I can >> understand Alex very well. Of course speech synthesis is very subjective, so >> what may suit one may not necessarily suit the other. >> >> On 15/01/2012 15:09, Daniel McGee wrote: >>> Chris a useful resource that I recommend checking out is >>> www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> Hopefully you should enjoy that site. >>> I love my Mac and I would love to get an iPhone but the voices i just don't >>> simply understand them and the touch screen doesn't really appeal to me. >>> The only thing I wish I could have on the Mac and IOS is elquance. If I had >>> this I wouldn't go back to windows and before anyone asks this is not a >>> blindness desire but is more needed for my hearing impairment. So if that >>> day comes around I will be jumping around like crazy. So for now I use >>> both platforms because of the above situation I have. >>> >>> Good luck with your research. Oh and by the way I brought a 13 inch Mac >>> Book Pro. >>> Just as a side note when I went the Apple store in blue water I noticed >>> that the Mac Book Air has two USB ports which is the same as the Mac Book >>> Pro. so all you need to think about is do you want a CD-ROM drive or not. >>> Obviously I chose that but I don't know how much they are going to be >>> around in Apple's line up of computers. Just so you know that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel >>> On 15 Jan 2012, at 13:00, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> I have had no need to use anything else but Preview, and reading has been >>>> easy with this, but on the Mac you are spoilt for choice with PDF reading. >>>> There are several programs available. So much so that PDF, which is a real >>>> pain on the Windows side is a very reasonable format on the Mac side. Of >>>> course if the PDF is graphic based and has no text then VO will struggle. >>>> The robobraille file conversion can handle most of these graphics based >>>> documents but I tend to duck back into Fusion and Kurzweil for these. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chris hallsworth >>>> Sent: 15 January 2012 00:29 >>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a mac >>>> >>>> So David, can you read PDFs fine on the mac? If so what app do you use? >>>> I have heard of Preview, does this work well with VoiceOver? I suspect it >>>> does since it is built in, but no harm in asking is there. >>>> >>>> On 14/01/2012 23:18, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> I am sure that the Mac will provide a good experience for all the >>>>> things you mention. >>>>> >>>>> I take the approach of using VM fusion with my Mac and I consider that >>>>> I therefore have the best of both worlds. If I need to study a table I >>>>> switch very quickly to Windows, Word and Jaws. If I need to read a PDF >>>>> I use the Mac. >>>>> I set up a boot camp partition but, if starting again from scratch, I >>>>> would not now bother as fusion is a far better solution , including >>>>> the capacity to install and set up Windows without sighted help. >>>>> Once you get used to it file management is far easier on the Mac. >>>>> There are differences but whenever I am in Windows I find myself >>>>> wanting to use column view . >>>>> Downloading files is very efficient and fast on the Mac in my >>>>> experience but again it is completely different from Windows and you >>>>> will need to learn different techniques if you want to monitor downloads. >>>>> The main problem with picking up the Mac is that there are lots of >>>>> information out there which is useful for visually impaired people but >>>>> it tends not to be centralised as much as for the commercial Windows >>>>> screen readers. However lists like this are invaluable as a learning >>>> assistant. >>>>> A big learning curve is ahead but I am sure you will enjoy it. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chris >>>>> hallsworth >>>>> Sent: 14 January 2012 17:15 >>>>> To: Mac OSX& iOS Accessibility >>>>> Subject: Switching to a mac >>>>> >>>>> Hello all. >>>>> Well, I have been using the other operating system PCs since 1997, and >>>>> it's time I now fancy a change of scenary. So in the future I am >>>>> considering switching to a mac. It should allow me to do the following: >>>>> 1. Browse websites such as Facebook. >>>>> 2. Manage my e-mail. >>>>> 3. Listen to and manage music. >>>>> 4. Buy music from iTunes or other online stores like Play.com. >>>>> 5. Do a very small amount of Word Processing, and I mean very small, >>>>> with hardly any formatting or other complex requirements. >>>>> I am looking into a laptop style mac. >>>>> 6. I am willing to use the other operating system where necessary, >>>>> either via bootcamp or a VM. So no issues there on that front. >>>>> I am going to take my time with this research, so please comment with >>>>> no rush necessary. >>>>> Again, I just fancy a change since I have been using Windows PCs since >>>> 1997. >>>>> It kind of also makes sense since I have both an iPhone and iPod Touch. >>>>> Thanks for any comments, good or bad, on this. 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