HI. thank you for the websites and all that good stuff. so i works is accessible?
ta. Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone On 31/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote: > Hi NMaria, > Vision Australia has podcasts on the Mac, as does Blind Cool Tech. > Additionally, you are welcome to check out my site, > > http://www.macfortheblind.com > and help yourself to everything I have up there. > > Office for the Mac is, unfortunately, not accessible to VoiceOver. The > menus can be read, but the content area for the text is not seen by > VoiceOver. Pages is the alternative for the Word Processor and, the iWork > suite, is the Apple answer to MS Office overall. > > > Take Care > John Panarese > jpanar...@mac-access.net > > > > On Jan 30, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: > >> HI. >> >> thanks for the comprehensive answers. that's super. there is a little >> flat screen i'm hoping to use with it. it's not very big and fairly >> portable. One more question. besides this list, are there websites and >> such where i can find tutorials for mac and voiceover ? I am a totally new >> user coming from a windows environment. >> >> thanks >> >> >> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote: >> >>> For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but, >>> unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor. >>> >>> As for Maria's questions; >>> >>>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple >>>> keyboard i have for my >>>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted >>>> assistance? >>> >>> Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a >>> bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only "trick" is >>> to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are >>> prompted. >>> >>> 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? >>> >>> Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor, >>> but I'm not sure. >>>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the >>>> computer? >>>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the >>>> computer is booted? >>> >>> Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini, >>> you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to >>> use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on, >>> it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again. >>> >>>> 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? >>> >>> Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, >>> is a program I have heard some folks use for this. >>> >>>> 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? >>> >>> Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get >>> external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my >>> earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Take Care >>> John Panarese >>> jpanar...@mac-access.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote: >>> >>>> HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions >>>> though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the >>>> bottom of this email. >>>> ok. here goes. >>>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple >>>> keyboard i have for my >>>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted >>>> assistance? >>>> 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? >>>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the >>>> computer? >>>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the >>>> computer is booted? >>>> 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio? >>>> >>>> 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in? >>>> I think that's about it. thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and >>>>> see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter >>>>> however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to >>>>> shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple >>>>> should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for >>>>> anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar <diane.ale...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>> For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small >>>>>> monitor >>>>>> cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am >>>>>> not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable >>>>>> would >>>>>> work for you. I am not experiencing these problems. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "matthew Dyer" <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: voice over question. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped. >>>>>>> There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is >>>>>>> one, but don't know what is called >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they >>>>>>>> realized >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with >>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to "trick" the mini into seeing a monitor? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you >>>>>>>>> can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use a >>>>>>>>> monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take Care >>>>>>>>> John Panarese >>>>>>>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I went >>>>>>>>>> the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one. >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I will >>>>>>>>>> update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor >>>>>>>>>> connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the possible idea. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>>>>> This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having >>>>>>>>>>> one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues. >>>>>>>>>>> Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my >>>>>>>>>>> MBP. >>>>>>>>>>> Yours, >>>>>>>>>>> Zack. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with >>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO >>>>>>>>>>>> automatically >>>>>>>>>>>> at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I complete >>>>>>>>>>>> login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with >>>>>>>>>>>> Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that >>>>>>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>>>>> is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after >>>>>>>>>>>> logging in? 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