I would hope people, especially Blind folks are not walking down the street 
texting.
If you do that, that explains your reasoning.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Waaler" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:44 PM
Subject: Perkins keyboard layout in IOS? was new ipad


Thanks for the reply!!  Wow!! You were serious then!!  I'd be very 
interested to learn what you would consider to be a comparable example. 
Since you used the word companies in the plural form, surely you'll be able 
to describe a single example of a main stream company that has made such an 
investment so as to accommodate a tiny faction of a small minority of the 
user community?

Yeah, I cut my teeth on the Perkins and even the slate and stylus, but can't 
think of a more ridiculous and unreasonable demand.  At age ten I learned 
touch typing (known as keyboarding in today's lingo), but assume even had I 
not done so, that VO on IOS provides sufficient feedback such that those 
unfamiliar with the layout are not precluded from pulling off data entry. 
Those who don't wish to master keyboarding can invest in a BT Braille 
device, or spring for a 4S and use Siri.  IMHO, the market place already 
accommodates the type of users you're describing, and I hope that Apple 
isn't distracted from adding vo features that would be of value to the 
entire user community.

So how would you envision walking down the street with a guide dog while 
composing a text?  I can easily accomplish this, but doubt that would be 
possible on an on-screen Perkins unless my note consisted of nothing but the 
letter a.

Best regards.
Geoff

----- Original Message
------ 
From: "Glenn" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: new ipad


> That is not a big demand!
> Get real, it just an on-screen keyboard.
> There are companies that have done it already, but Apple does not allow
> access to that level of the source code.
> There are a lot of Blind folks who can use a Braille keyboard, and have
> never typed on a computer keyboard.
> Either you did not think out your response, or you did not get what I 
> meant
> by a Perkins-style on-screen keyboard.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geoff Waaler" <[email protected]>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
> And you honestly consider that to be a reasonable request?  I'll go you 
> one
> better.  How about demanding that every sheet of toilet paper be embossed
> with Braille instructions describing how to locate the area of 
> application?
> After all, as a blind person I may never be able to locate it otherwise?
>
> My concern is that if a company takes the steps that Apple has and people
> demand modifications such as you describe, as a CEO I'd take that as an
> indication that I need to get out of the business and leave it to the 
> access
> technology people to worry about accessibility.  And ironically, I suspect
> most blind people would prefer to work with a QWERTY!!
>
> Best regards.
> Geoff
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glenn" <[email protected]>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: new ipad
>
>
>>A better camera would indeed benefit us, and Apple needs to get a
>> touch-screen keyboard that mimics a Perkins's keyboard.
>> Glenn
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