Actually I can back up my recovery disk via carbon copy  clowned. See  my 
earlier post on my podcast  at http://tffp.marrie.org/374 for a very detailed 
explanation on CCC as I call it.

Take care and enjoy.
On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Josh,
> 
> While you can partition a new hard drive fairly easily with Disk Utility by 
> selecting the drive and going to the "Partition" tab, you might consider just 
> getting a dedicated hard drive for Time Machine backups.  Time Machine will 
> fill up the available space, deleting the oldest backups as it runs out of 
> room, which is why you want to either partition the drive or dedicate a drive 
> if you are going to continue using it over time.  And this is also why you 
> don't want to store other files in the same location if you continue to run 
> Time Machine and run out of space -- since these other, non-Time Machine 
> files, can eventually be overwritten when this happens.
> 
> Starting up Time Machine can be as simple as attaching a brand new hard drive 
> (that is formatted for Mac's file system) and answering the prompt for "Do 
> you want to use this drive for Time Machine backups?", which includes an 
> option for deciding later if you don't want to decide now.  
> 
> I like to keep a bootable clone of my current operating system.  You can 
> create this with either SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. This lets you get 
> a working system up right away by attaching the cloned hard drive, and 
> booting up while holding the "Option" key.  Then, once you've heard the chime 
> and activity stop after 10 or 15 seconds, press either the right or left 
> arrow key followed by the return key to boot from your clone.  The only 
> amendment for Lion is that your clone won't include the Lion recovery 
> partition, but you can create a separate recovery drive if you read the 
> TidBITS article, "Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery 
> Drives":
> http://tidbits.com/article/12411
> 
> You can read details about how to create a bootable clone in Lynne's blog 
> article from last year:
> • "How to copy (Backup), (Clone) Your System Start Volume"
> http://maciosaccessdotnet.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/mac-osx-system-backup/
> 
> You can also get even more extensive details by taking advantage of your list 
> member's 80% discount, and getting the "Take Control of Backing Up Your Mac" 
> volume. I'll quote from a recent post by Travis about the two (off-list) 
> contact points for doing this. "So, anyone is welcome to purchase directly 
> from support at mac-access.net, or myself ([email protected]) and you will 
> get the same books at the same prices.  With the added caveat that if you 
> purchase through me, I do not have the facilities to offer the downloadable 
> bookshelf that Gordon and Lynne maintain, so you will need to contact them to 
> get that setup after the transaction is complete."  The reference to the 
> downloadable bookshelf is way of getting access to a bookshelf for the most 
> recent copies of your book purchases that is more accessible than the main 
> TidBITS site.  This is useful if you want to get another version (e.g. ePub 
> for reading on your mobile device) or access to a later version after your 
> purchase.  Since Lynne and Gordon are away at Wimbledon at present, setups 
> for the bookshelf access, or processing the orders through them might take a 
> bit longer.  They usually handle the non-U.S. orders and Travis handles the 
> U.S. ones.
> 
> You can read more about the Take Control book on backups and download a PDF 
> sample of the content here:
> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:56 AM, josh gregory wrote:
> 
>> Oh wow... very interesting. And a good end to it, too. So this brings
>> up a question: How do you go about setting up time machine? I've
>> looked, and it looks like the only real way to do it is by
>> partitioning a part of the hard drive, which I'm not keen on just yet.
>> Thoughts? Thanks!
>> 
>> On 7/2/12, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I think I learned a lot from this mess that happened to this poor guy.. and
>>> there are some good products as well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/1167339/macbook_woe_a_tale_of_a_near_mac_disaster_averted_by_good_backups.html#lsrc.rss_howto
>>> 
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