Hi Jeff,

Love the suggestion of the two-fingered swipe.  I'd tried a flick all right but 
to no avail which is why I posted.  The headphone issue isn't one I've seen so 
thanks for that.

Dónal
On 25 Jul 2012, at 18:01, "Geoff Waaler" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings Dónal, Diane and list,
> 
> Another solution is to perform actions/gestures that should cause VO to emit 
> speech and press volume up while its presumably happening.  EG, pressing the 
> power button normally causes VO to announce the time.  Without VO though, I 
> have no way of ascertaining whether I just locked my screen or unlocked it.  
> If I use the two finger flick up gesture, and press volume up, usually by the 
> time vo finishes announcing the time, date, notifications, and slide to 
> unlock/take picture admonishments, its at full volume.  If not, then I 
> probably locked it, and a repeat of the sequence of pressing power, followed 
> by the two finger flick up and volume up will do the trick.
> 
> Usually when this happens, the head phone volume is unaffected, so if you're 
> not comfortable acting on faith, you can put on the headphones, locate a 
> volume control, and then remove the headphones before manipulating the volume 
> slider via the flick up gesture.
> 
> Lastly, there is a very intermittent issue that likely still exists with 
> current IOS devices; I had it happen once a couple years ago on my 3GS.  What 
> happens is that a speck of dust gets into the headphone jack which causes the 
> microswitch to remain open, fooling the hardware into believing that the 
> headphone jack is engaged and there bye route sounds accordingly.  In this 
> scenario, the solutions suggested by Diane and me are ineffective.  Instead, 
> one can probably dislodge the item with a little canned air, or by inserting 
> and extracting headphones into the jack several times quickly.
> 
> HTH.
> Geoff
> 
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Diane Bomar 
>  To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility 
>  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:59 PM
>  Subject: Re: My temperamental iPhone!
> 
> 
>  This used to happen to me, quite frequently, especially after having the 
>  phone on a music dock, then taking it off. Hasn't happened under ios 5.1.1, 
>  though. My solution was to call the phone from another line, and raise the 
>  volume while the call was live. Sometimes that meant pressing the home 
>  button, so that the call screen was not in the foreground.
> 
>  There is a rotor option for volume, but difficult to use that when VO is not 
>  speaking. Actually, I  had not thought about this problem for a while, but 
>  have not experienced it on my 4s. It used to happen when I was using a 4, 
>  though. Don't know if the problem went away, or if a hardware or software 
>  upgrade fixed it.
>  Glad to know you got it working,for now.
>  Diane
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]>
>  To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:32 AM
>  Subject: My temperamental iPhone!
> 
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  this is very bizarre.  Here are several scenarios:
> 
>  1. voiceover is turned on.  no sound whatsoever from the phone.  No voice, 
>  no background beeps; nothing.
> 
>  2. someone rings. voiceover behaves perfectly.
> 
>  3. voiceover is turned off.  Phone behaves perfectly.
> 
>  I am confused. very very very confused!  help!
> 
>  cheers :)
> 
>  Dónal
>  Dónal Fitzpatrick
>  [email protected]
> 
> 
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